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    New 2 way in the synthesis Blue bafle Line

    I was looking at Facebooks JBL synthesis page when i noticed a new horn and a two way 15"

    some attending CEDIA Dallas 2015

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    A M2 waveguide with a "biradial style" form factor, and no super tweeter.
    Most interesting!
    I wonder what the compression driver will be.
    476Mg or D2430K? Or something new?
    The woofer looks very much like a 2216nd. Maybe a "passive crossover friendly" version with a lower fs?
    I think 4313B mentioned that some variants of the 2216nd were coming...

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    My bet is on a D2430K/2216nd home version of the M2 with a passive crossover. That's big news, and an awfully cool looking horn.

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    For JBL’s Studio Monitor speaker series, the group is replacing the flagship $15,000/pair 4365 speaker with the 4367 at the same price.

    The new model is a two-way 15-inch speaker that has been upgraded to add a punchier woofer (2216Nd-1), more midrange snap, and more detailed high frequencies with higher output (D22430K), a spokesperson said. It will be available in November in two cosmetic versions. One features walnut cabinet with blue baffle and blue grille like the original studio monitors, and the other comes in black walnut with black grille that completely covers the iconic blue baffle. It’s designed for consumers who like to keep the grilles off when playing music.


    http://dcoystaging.com/JBL_Synthesis/4367/index.html

    4367
    15" 2-way Studio Monitor Loudspeaker

    Specs
    Features:
    15" (380mm) low-frequency transducer for low-distortion, natural sound

    Extremely smooth and wide frequency response

    High-Definition Imaging (HDI™) horn technology

    Frequency Response:
    30Hz – 40kHz

    Speaker Configuration:
    3" (175mm) D22430K dual compression (U.S. patent no. 8280091) with High-Definition Imaging (HDI™) waveguide horn (U.S. patents pending)

    15" (380mm) 2216Nd-1 Differential Drive® woofer (U.S. patent nos. 5664023, 5748760, 6768804, 6847726, 6774510)

    Power Handling:
    300 watts RMS

    Sensitivity 1W @ 1m:
    94dB

    Nominal Impedance:
    6 Ohms

    Dimensions (H x W x D):
    37-1/16" x 22-1/16" x 16-3/4" (941 mm x 560 mm x 425 mm)

    Weight:
    135 lb (61.2 kg)

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    so its a consumers M2 I like the concept

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    Was GT involved with this one?

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    Wow, that looks nice!
    I hope speakerexchange will not sell these horns, because then I will have to buy them...

    Much cheaper elements in it, but at the same price as 4365. The Harman way!

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    Cool!!!

    Seems little bit smaller in dimension than 4365. But I like the black one.

    There is little info on the new site for the synthesis.

    And...the nominal impedance is 6ohm

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    Wow. It's a return to the 4430 with modern tech.

    I'd love to see the cabinet volume as I'm interested in building my own UBM with a 2216ND for use with SAM1HF.

    Nice to see something new at any rate.


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    For JBL’s Studio Monitor speaker series, the group is replacing the flagship $15,000/pair 4365 speaker with the 4367 at the same price.
    The new model is a two-way 15-inch speaker that has been upgraded to add a punchier woofer, more midrange snap, and more detailed high frequencies with higher output, a spokesperson said. It will be available in November in two cosmetic versions. One features walnut cabinet with blue baffle and blue grille like the original studio monitors, and the other comes in black walnut with black grille that completely covers the iconic blue baffle. It’s designed for consumers who like to keep the grilles off when playing music.

    more here...

    http://www.twice.com/harmans-jbl-syn...upgraded/58955
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    Interesting!

    I was hoping to see a Synthesis speaker with a 4" 476XX and active settings just like the M2 though. From raw driver perspective, I think the new model is a step back from the old one.

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    I would not be surprised if we've seen the last of the uber transducers like the 1500 and 476.

    Besides, who really cares? All this nonsense ended with the availability of the M2 components. They might not be quite in the same league as the Everest/K2/4365 components but JBL Professional definitely knew what to do with them to maximize their potential.

    Wow. It's a return to the 4430 with modern tech.
    Well, some of us considered the M2 to be the 4430 replacement several years ago.

    A M2 waveguide with a "biradial style" form factor, and no super tweeter.
    While I like the looks of the H4338, I have to say that I prefer the M2 wave guide to this 4367 offering. I am really looking forward to using the narrower baffle of the M2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    Well, some of us considered the M2 to be the 4430 replacement several years ago.
    I suppose that's true in so far as it's a two way with a 15 as well.

    I think the 4367 has a few more visual similarities to the 4430 though with the blue baffle (looks like 4430 with grill on) and similar box shape. I'm not sure but will assume that the new model will not be 100% DSP controlled and will include a passive network.

    I wonder if the '-1' designation on the 2216ND is to represent visual or mechanical modifications to the woofer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4313B View Post
    While I like the looks of the H4338, I have to say that I prefer the M2 wave guide to this 4367 offering. I am really looking forward to using the narrower baffle of the M2.
    I do too: the asymmetrical aspect ratio and directivity will always cause pattern flip in the lower part of the range.
    And then the deeper horn might load the D2 better and reduce distortion down low compared to the M2, but the slower flare rate will cause an increase of said distortion with frequency...

    All in all as you said the M2 waveguide is nice, and available

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    "High-Definition Imaging (HDI™) horn technology" "More midrange snap""
    What does this mean with plain words?
    What is the expected difference to the previous bi-radial horn in 4365? That the off-axis curves are more similar to the on-axis? Different kind of dispersion?
    Better in spinorama?

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