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    L40 vs L96 vs L112

    I have had L40's for 22 years (Sansui 9090DB) and they sound just beautiful. I recently bought L100's, hooked them up, and the bass was much boomier and not nearly as nice and punchy as the L40's so I sold them on Ebay.

    I am now thinking of the L96 or L112 which were developed after the L40 but I have never heard these either.

    I would be greatly appreciative of anyone who can compare how these three compare from a bass-tighness / PUNCH standpoint.

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    Gals liked the L96 and guys liked the L112. How's that for a synopsis?

    The L96 had the snappiest bass. The L112 was fuller and handled more juice.

    The L40 and L50 were one category lower than the L96 or L112. Their 2-inch voice coiled 125A/127A bass driver couldn't compete directly against the 3-inch voice coiled bass drivers in the L96 (10") or L112 (12"), though they were not bad for JBL's cheapest drivers of the time.

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    Thanks for the info...Do you agree with my comment about the L100's muddy bass? How did JBL change the woofer from the L100 to the L96 or L112 for instance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zekeman
    Do you agree with my comment about the L100's muddy bass?
    No. The L100 is the finest loudspeaker ever made. I'm utterly perplexed that anything else even exists at this point. :dont-know

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    L110's maybe?

    I was just talking about how I liked the difference in bass quality in my L110's over the L100 (NO OFFENSE-REALLY, they're still great). The LE 111A's in the L110 seem to have a tighter, punchy bass quality opposed to the L100. I've owned 2 pairs of L100's and 3 pairs of 4311's (2pr-B's, 1pr-WX-A's) and just got ahold of my first pair of L110's and love the sound!. From all the feedback about L96's, L110's and 4313 's I've read or heard, it seems to be mostly the same, the LE10 or other 10" LE series equipped speakers seem have a more desirable bass quality. I too have always thought that the L40 is a smooth sounding speaker, very liveable. Still it's like saying:" I like red Corvettes over Black ones".

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    I have to agree about the L40,for such a low budget 2 way it has a very smooth sound and punchy low end at the same time. If you ever see a pair going for a low price,jump on them. You will be suprised

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    Anybody know why the L100 has this "muddy" bass ?

    Is it the cabinet?
    Is it the port ?
    Is it the driver ?
    Is it the xover ?
    Is it a combination of all/some?
    or is it just the way it is

    Is the L112 less "muddy" ?
    Is the L150A less "muddy" ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Viking
    Anybody know why the L100 has this "muddy" bass ?
    Which model L100 does he have? Early (e.g. HF with round frame) or late (e.g. HF with square frame)?
    Quote Originally Posted by Viking
    Is the L112 less "muddy" ?
    Is the L150A less "muddy" ?
    Both can be a bit less so depending on boundary loading.

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    Mine is L100A "late" w. square HF, I think they made a change in the woofer from the earlier models ?

    But Im not even shure mine have a "muddy bass" what is white and what is black ? Is it the other speakers that have less bass or mine that have a bit more ?

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    Seriously, I don't recall the late L100 having "muddy" bass. I recall stacking it up against several other brands towards the end of it's production run and the bass response was NOT a problem. Could have been the room I was in...

    I've revisited quite a few systems over the years and have come away with "That's not as bad as I remember" and "That's not as good as I remember". Different rooms, different source/electronics. When someone makes a remark like "I had some 4315's...and IMHO the 2203's are the floppiest, ill defined woofer JBL has made....at least in that box (3.2 ft, 28 hertz Fb...)" my first thought is they were having a bad LSD experience or the crack they picked up on the corner was bad. My first thought should instead probably be "bad source", "bad room", or "bad back end".

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    That fits well with my sentiment

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    Talking amazing JBL L-112

    My JBL L-112 its amazing speaker, i"ve1 pair using for main home theather
    and, for music, the bass ,thight,midrange,blend,,high,sweet highend sound
    no hickup for h/t used,

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    Cool

    The L100 (I have the original model purchased in 1970) was a great entry point into more or less serious hi-fi for many in my generation. It still holds up well today, despite the fact that I've had a succession of JBLs since then that improved in one way or another on the L100's sound.

    Just remember we were doing the LP thing back then, and we had lots of other things to focus on like turntable rumble, dust, grit, scratches, hiss, tone arm vibration, etc. If I remember that time and all the concerts I attended in an altered state, the bass was pretty frickin' muddy by intention. So it's no wonder that we found our L100s the perfect concert-in-a-dorm-room companions.

    I mean really, come on, listen to Led Zep, The Who, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, the Rolling Stones, or even The Beatles on those old LPs. The bass is muddy. That's the way it was made and played.

    Admittedly, today I can get a digitally remastered copy on CD or even DVD of some of that stuff and play it through a $3k pre/pro, a few thousand watts of separate amps, and a super JBL Performance Series set up, and it's a technically superior recreation, but it doesn't sound right.

    It's not as good as those old LPs turning on a Dual 1219 running through a Kenwood KR6160 and two L100s.
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    Damn straight....

    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium Dome
    It's not as good as those old LPs turning on a Dual 1219 running through a Kenwood KR6160 and two L100s.
    Which is exactly why you need to have two separate systems in your house - a state of the art multi-channel, megawatt system for video and concert DVD's, and a 2-channel system with vintage JBL's, "made in japan" electronics and of course a nice turntable. And thanks to ebay it doesn't even have to cost that much....

    Well maybe "need to have" is too strong, but I'd highly recommend it...




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    Yes!

    JBLnut, Amen to that!!! That is EXACTLY what I have and what I tell my friends to do

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