(no joke)
I don't think anyone has done direct comparison between the sound of the M2 and 4367 waveguide. There are many M2 WG out there, but never seen anybody who has gotten their hand on the 4367 waveguide alone.
However, as my mom says (she owns the 4367), the 4367 WG look way better than the M2 butt hole.
So if that's a factor in decision, that's a possibility.
If we knew what the hell we were doing, we wouldn't call it research would we.
My listening room is basically like small club room.
Difference is, I do not stand (or jump) but just sitting in the first row.
Green rectangle is 'the listening' area (have to separate with curtains) and red line is 'the band'. Same time want to keep the clean look. No cahins and metal and scrached front grilles.
That's why I'm thinking of veneered monsters.
When there is a usual day, the curtains are hidden and the monsters play easy. The Volume-knob would be as well a part of plan...
Started the thread for some advise ... have people experiences with SUB18, how they are implemented with M2. If the M2 does not play all the way down - SUB18 does this part - maybe there is no need such of big enclosure for 2216 then ... etc.
@hack Haha... thought the same. Square or point to point. I’d have to go into the garage... ����☔️ (Apologies for the potentially unreadable emojis... spiderwebs and bats)
that calculator is great!
It's all here
https://jblpro.com/en/products/sub18
Rob
"I could be arguing in my spare time"
2269 has 3x2216 peak ?
Isn't it why it's used in Vertec.
1) finished off 2269 dim measures (post edited)... appears most JBL 18"ers will drop into the same hole (front mounted), caveat being cabinet depth requirements.
2) separate/modular enclosures seems like a good idea for reasons already stated.
3) I know at least one person that has augmented their M2s with SUB18s... I believe there was no remorse. Necessary? perhaps for some. That's a pretty large space.
Take a look at this
https://www.audiosciencereview.com/f...s-w-subs.2369/
Rob
"I could be arguing in my spare time"
Interesting. I imagine he has a very good playback system, but geez, I wouldn't want to sit on that interrogation chair and listen to music in that environment.
On the science however, I think he has gone down an interesting rabbit hole. In my experience the importance of time coherence hasn't trumped other playback issues, but once you get everything else right, if you can also correct the time/phase response then go for it.
That said, I wonder if he ever tried rotating the room orientation 90°? In my last two rectangular rooms of roughly similar proportions to his, I have found going with the typical audiophile "deep room" didn't work as well as going with a "wide room".
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