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    My Barzilay box rebuild!

    this will be my first box that I actually will try and restore, any comments or tips please let me know
    never done it before but with the help of Google and Youtube i should be good to go right...and of course you guys!

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    Those look nice, whats inside them?

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    final coat!

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    I have a set of d130f, im gonna try it when i get bored
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    cheese head!

    I has D131, 075 and an N2400...
    they sound awesome as is...but the box needs a lot of attention. The front and rear panels are all old and soft...im planning on making new ones...
    theres no low end at all, I understand that they don't really go that low but if I get a good seal and maybe a better port, I might get a little....
    the tweeters are all original...I think, its still have that red wax stamped by JBL...
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    ...don't really go that low but if I get a good seal and maybe a better port, I might get a little....
    Don't get your hopes up, but nice driver set!

    Might try to save the lattice though (if possible and not too messed up). Some folks actually like the look

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    Quote Originally Posted by grumpy View Post
    Don't get your hopes up, but nice driver set!

    Might try to save the lattice though (if possible and not too messed up). Some folks actually like the look
    i know, ive heard...i might add a subwoofer to help up with the lows i think..some guy selling 2226hpl for 120-150 for 2...but the thing is huge...that mean i will need a huge box! my wife will divorce me if she sees another speaker box in our house

    i wonder if a regular powered subwoofer like home audio/HT would help?its smaller and i could actually hide it behind the barzilays...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMED View Post
    i know, ive heard...i might add a subwoofer to help...
    Do your research. The 2226 is NOT a sub and has limited utility as a very low frequency driver. A real sub would help, but you'll need to biamp or go with something like a decent powered sub. Your speakers are extremely efficient and will not easily mate with most subs.

    I have the same drivers and network in a pair of DIY Apollos from the late '50s or early '60s. Nice speakers but definitely lacking in bass. I would toss the networks entirely if I was going to mess around with them... Then I'd want to add bass, improve the tweeter, and then... no, I haven't touched them.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget View Post
    Do your research. The 2226 is NOT a sub and has limited utility as a very low frequency driver. A real sub would help, but you'll need to biamp or go with something like a decent powered sub. Your speakers are extremely efficient and will not easily mate with most subs.

    I have the same drivers and network in a pair of DIY Apollos from the late '50s or early '60s. Nice speakers but definitely lacking in bass. I would toss the networks entirely if I was going to mess around with them... Then I'd want to add bass, improve the tweeter, and then... no, I haven't touched them.


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    2225?2235? im fricking lost with all this numbers!!! i guess the cheapest way for me is to get a regular powered subwoofer like a single 12 thanks! i guess ill do that when i get done...
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    so i put everything back, all i have to do is trim the grill/lattice, so that I could take it off from the outside...
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    i guess i will be taking it off! and replace itName:  cvcvc.JPG
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    haha! its about 2 inches tall, the original ones are 1.5... i just have to clean them up! Made out of copper
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    Hi Armed;

    Closed cell foam wont help at all inside. Reticulated foam is better but nothing beats glass fiber.

    If you can't breath through it or water won't pour straight through it keep looking.

    Those are looking good!

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    If we knew what the hell we were doing, we wouldn't call it research would we.

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    newbie mistake! ill change it...thanks for the tip!
    plus im thinking about recapping my crossover...
    i still dont know if i should do it myself...

    anyone here wanna help me out??

    ive been reading about it...i can probably build it myself...(ghetto style)
    i just need the parts list..
    i know schematics are out there (n2400 revealed) been reading that..
    do i just go to partsexpress and tell them all that parts? from the schematics?

    can anyone actually fill their cart with all the stuff i need from partsexpress and take a picture
    that way i know what to get?...please...
    or can anyone recap my crossover for me please
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    Quote Originally Posted by ARMED View Post
    newbie mistake! ill change it...thanks for the tip!
    I am sorry that you pulled it back out, the bed topper was perfectly fine and suitable for this build
    The dampening in your cabs is not doing the same thing as it does in an old air suspension or transmission line design
    It's to help reduce first reflections and prevent the box from being too shouty, or boxy sounding, not so much for tuning
    Should have trusted your instincts
    Nice speakers, nice job

    Joe

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