C38 Baron Cabinet Rehab

[bigyank]

So I picked up a pair of C38's from Fred Sanford.



Somebody before both of us decided for whatever reason to paint them white..... Would love to know their history.



From what I have read these are the earlier version based on the rectangular port. Is that correct?

I am trying to somewhat eco-friendly so I am using Ready Strip.



Not 100% sure but most likely will try some JBL parts I have on the shelf once I get the cabinets ready. Will be a veneering test for me long term.

Yank

[SMKSoundPro]

Looks like the perfect hole for a 175/potato masher horn combo. I have a pair sitting right here with period correct brand new 2410 diaphragms in them.

Let us know what is under the paint, and that is the same stripper Lisa and I used for a pair of Valencias. It worked really well. We layed in on with a wide brush, then covered it with a layer of plastic to kepp it from evaporating away.

Scrap off the goo/paint, and continue!

Scotty.

[Wagner]

You will be pleasantly surprised once you remove the paint.

Wash them down good after you strip them, with acetone or MEK.

The blond veneer will really POP; fill those holes with Famowood and you may not have to re-veneer.

JBL used a lot of tinted topcoats to obtain various finishes (colors/species?)
At least that has been my findings on the boxes I have striped and cleaned up from that period.

Another popular option: people seemed to like to slop on them at some point was "antique" finish; basically a crude brown paint job.

I have a hunch you will be amazed at what you find underneath, but that final wash is critical to achieve nice clear, clean grain.

Thomas

[Audiobeer]

Take particular care of the corners on the face. They seem to pop real easy!

[Fred Sanford]

Looks like the perfect hole for a 175/potato masher horn combo. I have a pair sitting right here with period correct brand new 2410 diaphragms in them.

Scotty.

These originally had an 030 load, bullets (w/adapter plates?) & D130s.

http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...73&postcount=1

I believe they were painted white & had doors stuck on them when they were integrated into somebody's closets/built-ins.

je

[Wagner]

If you work smart, the acetone or MEK wash may even preclude the need to even sand, other than just the lightest finishing go over to smooth the grain.

They used veneer of exceptional quality on those old boxes, but it wasn't very thick. I like to avoid as much sanding as possible unless it's unavoidable.

Thomas

[lgvenable]

you can swell veneer to remove small marks, then sand lightly.Use methanol and water, after wiping it on you can also use a steam iron; but be careful. the glues that hold veneers on are heat activated.

when using a steam iron I use a cotton tee shirt between the veneer and the iron, NO direct contact.

[SMKSoundPro]

I thought these could mount right in: Hole looks about right.

See Link: http://www.lansingheritage.org/image...1957/page8.jpg

The famous 001 system!!!

A 130A (16 Ohm) and 175 with lense and N1200.

I have a pair of 2220 -16 ohmer all coned up and just sitting here. We would need the vintage N1200 crossover. Shouldn't be too tough to find a pair.

[SMKSoundPro]

Ok. How about these: http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-N1200-CROSSO...item2c53cf5740

They look abit rough...

But here: http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-Signature-So...item23044e5460
for $1500 each?

[opimax]

are you trying to mess up my CD holder?

Mark

[bigyank]

are you trying to mess up my CD holder?

Mark

Yes I am. I originally got these to practice my veneering but the warm weather got the DIY bug going......

Yank

[opimax]

I prefer wood to paint so go ahead and fix up the outside nicely , just make sure at least 1 shelf can hold DVDs too, different height

Mark

[Wagner]

This pair is just plain wrong; wrong network for mating what appears to be the 075 to a 130A
N1200 is twice too low; there'll be a BIG hole in there somewhere, assuming the 075s have survived
I think the cabs, although not terrible, are home built as well
Pretty ambitious seller!

http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-Signature-So...item23044e5460

Thomas

[Wagner]

I thought these could mount right in: Hole looks about right.

See Link: http://www.lansingheritage.org/image...1957/page8.jpg

The famous 001 system!!!

A 130A (16 Ohm) and 175 with lense and N1200.

I have a pair of 2220 -16 ohmer all coned up and just sitting here. We would need the vintage N1200 crossover. Shouldn't be too tough to find a pair.

You're gonna love it when you're done; especially if you like Jazz!

Might I suggest, a small, good quality tube amp will give you the best results in my opinion. For some reason, much more bass (and it's very good) with tubes.

Enjoy and good luck!

Thomas

[Wagner]

This pair is just plain wrong; wrong network for mating what appears to be the 075 to a 130A
N1200 is twice too low; there'll be a BIG hole in there somewhere, assuming the 075s have survived
I think the cabs, although not terrible, are home built as well
Pretty ambitious seller!

http://cgi.ebay.com/JBL-Signature-So...item23044e5460

Thomas

Not 130As either on second look; hopefully by the dust cap, D130s

I wonder about a seller that can't read the label on the back of the driver, unless they've been re-coned at some point (to give him the benefit of the doubt)

Now after spending $3K for these home brews, all the buyer has to do is find some N2600s and he'll be set!

Thomas