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    "Fancy!"

    If I was able to sit through the entire thing, I would have kept going with the running count I was keeping of how many times he said "uh" or "um"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    I may be naive but I thought Mapleshade was serious about their products, not that I intended to try any. But then I saw their speaker bi-wire jumper strips and now I'm not sure they're not being tongue-and-cheek about everything:
    Hey ..they are the real deal, and really smart

    from the new catalog..p69: Mapleshades roots: about the owner/founder..

    "In 1966 I was recruited to work at the pentagon for Macnamaras "whiz kids" . There, 2 brilliant fighter pilots and I started the F-16."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    Audio Tweeks are nothing next to starting a SOTA fighter plane..
    I hope they used something better than these in their SOTA fighters!



    I've been inside the "Concordski" Tupolev 144. They would have considered these strips high-tech!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    Hey ..they are the real deal, and really smart

    from the new catalog..p69: Mapleshades roots: about the owner/founder..
    For grins I opened the previously sealed Mapleshade catalog that had been sitting unopened in the recycling pile.

    I popped the shipping seals and it opened to page 25.

    "Hook up these $85 wires and you'll think you just spent $500 to $1000 more on your speakers."

    OK, so if I use those wires on my $250,000 Magico Ultimates, will I notice less of an improvement than if I use them on my $25 Realistic Minimus .5 speakers? I mean proportionally...

    What the hell does a blanket statement like that mean anyway. These guys just can't be serious... or they certainly are not very smart.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget View Post
    For grins I opened the previously sealed Mapleshade catalog that had been sitting unopened in the recycling pile.

    I popped the shipping seals and it opened to page 25.

    What the hell does a blanket statement like that mean anyway. These guys just can't be serious... or they certainly are not very smart.
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    No no, they are VERY smart if they extract $85 and more for the stuff they sell, its the BUYERS that aren't so smart ... PT Barnum, y'know ...

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    Wink Ineresting thread about cable.

    http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...997#post274997

    This thread was started after this member read this one, very interest indeed.

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    My speaker wire has 0.20 dcr per speaker leg run. How am I doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by midlife View Post
    My speaker wire has 0.20 dcr per speaker leg run. How am I doing?
    A little high. "per leg" I assume you mean "per conductor"?
    If it's the case your wires have a resistance of 0.4Ω, against a nominal 8Ω for your speaker this means that 5% of your amplifier power is dissipated in heat in the cable.

    I'm sure it's quite OK though, I wouldn't worry too much about it

    Remember that most of the DVMs are not very good to measure very low resistances, their own internal resistance and the cheap cables and sometimes loose connexions have you measure around 0.2Ω when leads are shorted. You should compare your reading with the leads well shorted and then substract the difference.

    The other way is to measure the voltage drop of the wire and the current flowing through it with a good ammeter. Then ask Georg for the result

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    Thats good, but other things apply.

    Quote Originally Posted by midlife View Post
    My speaker wire has 0.20 dcr per speaker leg run. How am I doing?
    If your speakers are 8 ohms then your fine, if they are 4 ohms, then not quite so good.

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    You know, you started it when you wrote,

    The shape of the Twinkies and the cream filling create a capacitive/inductance canceling field and the wire will become a superconductor at room temperatures.
    Hey, I can do junk science as well as anyone!
    That got me thinking and I just couldn't stop my self. It's all your fault jcrobso!

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    Unhappy OK, I'll go stand in the corner.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post

    You know, you started it when you wrote,



    That got me thinking and I just couldn't stop my self. It's all your fault jcrobso!
    Can I come out now????

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    Looking speaker cable for 4343 biamping

    Looking speaker cable for 4343 biamping, long stretches of 5 m. While stopped at here is this cable: Belden 8477 12AWG, www.belden.com/techdatas/metric/8477.pdf
    like the fact that the tinned copper will not oxidize. What do you think? Good choice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhail View Post
    Looking speaker cable for 4343 biamping, long stretches of 5 m. While stopped at here is this cable: Belden 8477 12AWG, www.belden.com/techdatas/metric/8477.pdf
    like the fact that the tinned copper will not oxidize. What do you think? Good choice?
    Would probably be wonderful.

    I use 6Moons White Lightning Moonshine. You can certainly do those in 5-meter runs. Mine are 10-feet (about 3-meters). I terminated mine with Neutrik dual-bananas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMWCCA View Post
    Would probably be wonderful.

    I use 6Moons White Lightning Moonshine. You can certainly do those in 5-meter runs. Mine are 10-feet (about 3-meters). I terminated mine with Neutrik dual-bananas.

    http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...l=1#post269953
    Thank you for your advice. I think that this banana should be very convenient!
    But I think the banana to each amplifier is not suitable by the fact that the distance between the terminals is different, you need to measure before ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikhail View Post
    Thank you for your advice. I think that this banana should be very convenient!
    But I think the banana to each amplifier is not suitable by the fact that the distance between the terminals is different, you need to measure before ...
    It's pretty much the standard spacing. Works for all my amps, including the Crowns.
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