yesterday I fell over these amazing horns and could not resist her to buy. I would build myself a few Hartsfield Cabs now. In addition I have the following questions:
1.) its a differend between H5039 and 2309
2.) orginal the bass driver 150-C4 is very difficult to get. I have to use thought a K145 or a E145. Is that meaningful?
make me happy about each answer.
best regards
juergen
ps Apology for my bad English, is from on-line Translater. I hope one understands me.
you lucky dog... those appear to be in nice shape.
My understanding is that the horn codes are only different because one
was sold for home, the other professional (the same).
opinion: I would use E145 but some folks just have to have alnico.
-grumpy
grumpy, thanks for the answer. Here in Germany everything is which JBL labeled very expensively. There one must already have luck. I will thus look for E145.
regards
juergen
i use E 145...
Juergen,
do you want a copy as close as possible?
Some simulations with HORNRSP
and a modern speaker can be helpful.
__________
Peter
@ bruno,
thanks. is your Hartsfield DIY?
@ Peter,
"do you want a copy as close as possible?"
Yes . Nevertheless I want to compute with AJ-horn and hornresp.
thanks
juergen
Totally DIY !
You can see here , but only in FRench !
http://membres.lycos.fr/hartsfield/
hello Bruno,
thanks for the link. Very good work.
regards
juergen
Juergen
I sent you a p.m.
AJ
rs237: Nice buy. Everything with the JBL name is also very expensive in the US. In 1975 JBL 2inch/51mm dia throat 2441/375 drivers cost $300US, probably more in Europe.
Off-topic:
You just bought the 2390 horn and 2397 1 inch/25mm to 2inch/50mm adaptor? Did you buy the 2441/375/376 driver?
Hello RKLee,Originally Posted by RKLee
i have four 2441 Drivers
regards
juergen
The pro lens is black, the Hartsfield lens is gold. The 150-4C is an expensive collectors item, as is an original Hartsfield. Any other woofer is just a speaker, without the legend, history & appeal of the original. Why bother? It won't really be Hartsfield, & there are better ways to use other woofers.
The Hartsfield isn't a very good sounding speaker by today's standards, weak bass & highs, coloration, jagged frequency response & major phase/path length problems. Originals are museum pieces, artwork. It makes no sense to me to reproduce them or to use different loudspeakers in them. The originals are nice simply because they are originals, something to look at. Having a reproduction is like have a poster of a painting rather than the painting, except that this reproduction will cost a lot of money & weigh 250 lbs.
You would probably be better off investing your time & money on modern equipment rather than reproducing a old design that does not sound very good.
I'll jump in here and would like to defend that project.
- Reproducing that JBL competitor to Klipschorns is quite a challenge, even for gifted woodworkers. Therein one might find satisfaction alone.
- I was told by reliable sources that 2/3 of all existing Hartsfields in the US could be clones. Good and bad ones of course, and that was done since the 70s already. How come?
Hello John,
yes yes and yes, you are right certainly. I will anodise the Lenses again gold and will use as Woofer the E145, then I add a pair 2405. If I luck have find I still a pair 150-C4.
Perhaps I am also only crazy.
regards
juergen
ask my bad English to excuse
Fangio,I'll jump in here and would like to defend that project.
- Reproducing that JBL competitor to Klipschorns is quite a challenge, even for gifted woodworkers. Therein one might find satisfaction alone.
- I was told by reliable sources that 2/3 of all existing Hartsfields in the US could be clones. Good and bad ones of course, and that was done since the 70s already. How come?
thanks for your positive words. I think it become an in any case good Speaker for my tube amplifier.
regards
juergen
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