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quindecima
03-23-2016, 06:57 PM
I'm going to hook up my smart phone to my pre amp via an aux input in the rear to listen to Pandora. I know that music is compressed is there any way to open it up more? maybe using a dbx compressor

grumpy
03-23-2016, 07:07 PM
I'd try it without first. But you might find using one enjoyable.
Here's some opinions from the interwebz ;)

http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/dynamic-expanders-are-they-worth-it.339434/

friend had a 3bx in the 80's (maybe early 90's)... Helped sometimes. Was easy to over do it.

Challenger604
03-23-2016, 07:13 PM
I'm going to hook up my smart phone to my pre amp via an aux input in the rear to listen to Pandora. I know that music is compressed is there any way to open it up more? maybe using a dbx compressor

I connected my Ipad, Ipad mini and Iphone. The sound is very very good but less bass with the Iphone. Still very good though. No compression even on youtube. But if the tune has been recorded with compression, nothing you can do about it...

Cheers!
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PS: iI used to lsten Life 365 but they are no more...

grumpy
03-23-2016, 07:15 PM
Playing with the iDevice EQ setting might make a useful difference as well

Ed Zeppeli
03-24-2016, 06:59 AM
I connected my Ipad, Ipad mini and Iphone. The sound is very very good but less bass with the Iphone. Still very good though. No compression even on youtube. But if the tune has been recorded with compression, nothing you can do about it...

Cheers!
C

PS: iI used to lsten Life 365 but they are no more...


I sometimes wonder if there is some kind of ideal gain structure internally with laptops and other devices. When I had my LSR305s hooked up to my laptop I would get better bass response with the PCs Windows volume up and then using the music playing app's volume to adjust.

Slightly off-topic but thought I'd throw that out there.

:)

Challenger604
03-24-2016, 07:08 AM
I sometimes wonder if there is some kind of ideal gain structure internally with laptops and other devices. When I had my LSR305s hooked up to my laptop I would get better bass response with the PCs Windows volume up and then using the music playing app's volume to adjust.

Slightly off-topic but thought I'd throw that out there.

:)


Oh yeah! No worries Ed!
Way back then, I used to plug my Bell PC and was awful. Didn't think about an app. Was 10 years ago...

The sound that I get from the Ipads is pretty I would say... Without any app.
C

rdgrimes
03-24-2016, 07:50 AM
I'm going to hook up my smart phone to my pre amp via an aux input in the rear to listen to Pandora. I know that music is compressed is there any way to open it up more? maybe using a dbx compressor

In that scenario, you're listening to the phone's 50-cent DAC, so you should keep expectations very low. It's mainly intended for use with $5 headphones. Pandora is CBR 128k stereo from any device other than a PC. Some newer AVRs and Pre-pro have a DSP mode that's intended to restore some life to compressed music. But, nothing can restore lost data, at best they can stretch the dynamic range a little.

Pandora is what it is, best to just accept it as-is. There are better quality streaming services if you really need that.

SEAWOLF97
03-24-2016, 08:30 AM
I sometimes wonder if there is some kind of ideal gain structure internally with laptops and other devices. When I had my LSR305s hooked up to my laptop I would get better bass response with the PCs Windows volume up and then using the music playing app's volume to adjust.

Slightly off-topic but thought I'd throw that out there.

:)

I've noticed that too ..need to get premium volume by adjusting apps gain + PC's gain + amps gain


Oh yeah! No worries Ed!
Way back then, I used to plug my Bell PC and was awful. Didn't think about an app. Was 10 years ago...

The sound that I get from the Ipads is pretty I would say... Without any app.
C

My PC has a 24/192 DAC with 7.1 , sounds spectacular. Even the Nano sounds good , but can drastically alter sound by whats at the end of the chain.


In that scenario, you're listening to the phone's 50-cent DAC, so you should keep expectations very low. It's mainly intended for use with $5 headphones. Pandora is CBR 128k stereo from any device other than a PC. Some newer AVRs and Pre-pro have a DSP mode that's intended to restore some life to compressed music. But, nothing can restore lost data, at best they can stretch the dynamic range a little.

Pandora is what it is, best to just accept it as-is. There are better quality streaming services if you really need that.

I run Pandora thru a 24/192 DAC to a 130wpc integrated to ESS bookshelves and it sounds great. Doubt that 'Dora is so bad anymore (was, at one time tho)

quindecima
03-24-2016, 01:52 PM
Well, I have it hooked up now thru a Y connection to the RCA inputs but I think I will look for a better input device.

BMWCCA
03-25-2016, 03:39 AM
Well, I have it hooked up now thru a Y connection to the RCA inputs but I think I will look for a better input device.
I find a single-play TEAC CD-P650 with its USB input works great for connecting my phone or iPod to my system and bypasses the phone's internal DAC. I paid $120 when I bought mine which was about what other iPod connection devices cost but with the added convenience of being able to connect any device via USB and not being restricted to Apple connectors. Plus it added a nice CD transport for free. :dont-know:

quindecima
03-25-2016, 08:55 AM
Nice but I need something small, I'm running out of spaces in my component stack.