Ral 7038 & 5012/5015 swatch

[bldozier]

Can anyone provide a block swatch of the ral colors for the blue & gray,

[bldozier]

So im trying to take the sample to the store so they can make up the paint from the sample...
Does anyone have a sample or swatch?

[bldozier]

Bump.

[JeffW]

I was thinking RAL 5007 was the blue, but that should be enough for the paint store to mix from.

There are online converters, too

http://rgb.to/ral/5007

[bldozier]

Huh?

Just go to the paint store an tell em ral 5007.
Was hoping anyone whom had mixed a batch already had a consensus as to how to peg the color 100%
I will just keep my fingers crossed. Thanks jeffw.

Anyone have a grey or blue jbl sample or swatch.

[JeffW]

Thing is, the paint ages. Different speakers may have fading over time. By using the paint code, you get the original color - or close to it - where a sample might be faded and not representative of the original color.

[bldozier]

Jeffw I dont mind speaking to the counter agent we can agree on a contrast or color variation dependant on the sample.
Its good to just have some barometer, while im in the store.

Im sure as many times as the questions been asked, someone on tne forum has a formula, they just havent noticed my request for it.

Thanks again for your helpful injections.

[quindecima]

Look at post #27 in 'my 4345 build' I used RAL 5007

[JeffW]

I think the whole idea behind color standards is to facilitate duplication of colors using nothing but a standardized code.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_RAL_colors

The paint store should be able to generate the formula for you based on the code.

Bo had a Sherwin Williams store generate a sample formula once, but it was incorrect and had to be further tweaked. Seems like most guys these days just go off the code, but maybe somebody is still going old school and will have a formula that will work.

Here's Bo's thread, just be sure to read the thread carefully as some of the formulas posted are incorrect.
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?1910-JBL-Blue-redux

Pay attention to post 19, 21, and 25.

[Earl K]

Here's a thread that explores the different blues ( among many other nice things ) .

Ral 5007 is the closest match ( from a LHF, consensus POV ).

Click the pic !


http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=60201&d=1379970581 (http://www.audioheritage.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?34471-DIY-JBL-4344-project&p=353098&viewfull=1#post353098)

Personally, I'd go darker purple ( but that's just me ) .

:)

[bldozier]

It was a great thread, took off well, but was left in suspense, being incomplete.
Great diy thread, a touch lighter then I could stand, but ive also been to jail.

No I have already decided against #5007
still looking in no hurry

Maybe 5015?
The 43.com site has touchup, if they ship outside Japan, maybe I could match it.

[bldozier]

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Got a 5007ral swatch, these look super rich, and slightly saturated, maybe its a tone in a scheme, however for my taste and final location, dont think it by itself would compliment any 43 series speaker as is. My 2 cents.

Im still looming for that perfect homebrew color from any number of members whom have made a batch already
Thanks ( quindecima ) to I can now absolutely rule out 5007

[grumpy]

Posting color swatches on the interwebz is like listening to youtube speaker demos.
Sort of interesting (particularly descriptive commentary), and kind of fun, but fairly useless
for critical comparison.

See this screen capture (representative of the digital files portrayed, not my screen)
that shows how insanely far off color swatches (and even RAL website representations),
under different viewing conditions can be

I'd just trust your eyes and do what you like, with the various textual descriptions as a start:

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[JeffW]

Posting color swatches on the interwebz is like listening to youtube speaker demos.
Sort of interesting (particularly descriptive commentary), and kind of fun, but fairly useless
for critical comparison.



What, you and every other person on the internet hasn't had their monitor calibrated? For shame :D

[grumpy]

Oh the humility...:rotfl:

[Mr. Widget]

Posting color swatches on the interwebz is like listening to youtube speaker demos. :eek:

Say it isn't so!


Widget

[tjm001]

Posting color swatches on the interwebz is like listening to youtube speaker demos.


Awesome and apt analogy:applaud:

[bldozier]

Apropo, my good man, an where is your sample?
dident I mention this somewheres in the original topic somewhere, I do think its mostly taste, an do not think ral 5007 can stand on its own in my home at least.

But most web scans are like door delivered news paper, yes agree, thus my question

[grumpy]

Short of cutting a chunk of monitor out and sending it, there's not really much to be done.
Perhaps someone has a severely damaged baffle (or piece) they could offer up.
Finding a local buddy with the more portable 4301 to drag to a paint store would work too.

Several folks have been down this path and have offered their preferred recipe.
Trouble is how to evaluate. I don't envy your quandary.

[Mr. Widget]

Even JBL hasn't maintained the color. The current blue faced "monitors" are a very different shade of blue from the walnut enclosures of the '70s and '80s 43XX series speakers.

The 4350 and 4355 did have removable panels to blank out the optional locations for the 2405 and mid horn. Perhaps you could find someone willing to lend you one of those for color matching?


Widget

[grumpy]

This is how varied things can get, even with one unfortunately -not- flat lit photo
(I'll try one at home using better lighting if I remember):

703827038370384

[JeffW]

Short of cutting a chunk of monitor out and sending it, there's not really much to be done.
Perhaps someone has a severely damaged baffle (or piece) they could offer up.
Finding a local buddy with the more portable 4301 to drag to a paint store would work too.

Several folks have been down this path and have offered their preferred recipe.
Trouble is how to evaluate. I don't envy your quandary.

Yeah, but would the baffle or 4301 still be pristine or sun faded/aged? You might go to all that trouble and still not get the "original" color.

[Odd]

I liked this wall color.


Maybe I paint baffle in a different color.:p

[grumpy]

Yeah, but would the baffle or 4301 still be pristine or sun faded/aged? You might go to all that trouble and still not get the "original" color.

Yep. Depends on what you're going for... which was kind of my point earlier.
Find what you want and match that (can be challenging), or adapt/modify to personal prefs.

I personally like the older/aged look and patina :)

[bldozier]

This is how varied things can get, even with one unfortunately -not- flat lit photo
(I'll try one at home using better lighting if I remember):

703827038370384

Maybe the lighting used makes the giant jbl cab of yours look uneven on my tiny android tablet, the mr Sherman Williams app I tried to DL will not work on my device its for phones only currently... thanks, besides that fine speaker resembles the blighted 5007 mentioned earlier. Too close to call epically now... Id like less color for more brightness, maybe a white/blue cooperation.

I will keep trying
Thanks brother.