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NickH
06-04-2015, 02:55 PM
Does anyone know what op amps are used in the front end of the 6260?
Thanks,
Nick
hjames
06-04-2015, 06:20 PM
Does anyone know what op amps are used in the front end of the 6260?
Thanks,
Nick
See page 31 - http://www.jblproservice.com/pdf/Vintage%20JBL-UREI%20Electronics/JBL-6230_%206260manual.pdf
According to the schematic it says either Op amp type 7L084 or 71084 (its kind of a smeary PDF)
Based on some googling, I'm guessing its 7L084
NickH
06-04-2015, 06:47 PM
Thanks Heather.
I did download the manual but I didn't recall seeing it on the schematic. Or maybe I just couldn't make it out.
Thanks again,
Nick
hjames
06-04-2015, 06:51 PM
Thanks Heather.
I did download the manual but I didn't recall seeing it on the schematic. Or maybe I just couldn't make it out.
Thanks again,
Nick
Bottom left corner of page 31 ... but as I said, it is blurry.
Baron030
06-05-2015, 09:00 AM
I agree the manual looks very blurry. But, to me the font looks to be Italic. So, what appears to be a “7” could very well be a “T” instead. And my google searches do not turn up any 71084 or 7L084 op-amps. On the other hand, a TL084 is a common 4 unit op-amp. If the chips appear to be 14 pin dual in line packages then most likely to be they are TL084 chips.
Here is a Texas Instruments product Link: http://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/tl084.pdf
And where you can find a replacement part if that is what is needed: http://www.mouser.com
Mouse Part # 595-TL084CN
Baron030:)
NickH
06-05-2015, 04:19 PM
Well I'll find out tomorrow for sure since mine will be delivered by FedEx sometime Saturday. Tl084 would make more since being the old school opamps prefix. But I find it odd that the 6260 uses a different opamp then the 6290 which by the manual looks to be a tl072. The only person who probably knows this by heart is subwoof. I'd love to find a discrete opamp that will work in its place.
I guess I'll find out soon.
Thanks for the help though,
Nick
Allanvh5150
06-06-2015, 03:30 AM
Go with TL084.
Allan.
NickH
06-06-2015, 08:11 AM
I'll have to do some research and find a modern superior opamp that will work in its place.
martin2395
06-06-2015, 12:47 PM
Nick, you might want to take a look at Burson and Audio-GD's offerings, they do have discrete opamps in their lineup but I don't know the details.
NickH
06-06-2015, 04:43 PM
Hi Martin,
I've been looking at bursons discrete opamps. But they don't make a quad though. I got the amp today. I've got to put it on the bench tomorrow. It doesn't seem to be working at 100%. I hooked it up to the speakers and the output seems to be low.
I talked to my friend who's an analog engineer he actually said the tl074 would be a good upgrade. But I'm leaning more toward the opa4134. I thinking a full electrolytic capacitor change is also in order.
I'll have to look into audio GD.
Nick
Allanvh5150
06-06-2015, 07:57 PM
Each of the 074 and 084 have their own merits, however, in this application, the 084 is more than adequate.
Allan.
NickH
06-10-2015, 05:58 PM
I've bought the parts to overhaul this unit. All new electrolytics except for the power supply caps. Mouser didn't carry the right type. Mundorf makes a cap that I think will fit but I'm not certain though. I'm replacing all the others with nichicon muse caps. I know its probably over kill, but they were cheap. I'm also pulling the tl084 opamps and putting sockets in there place. I will be trying tl074's in here first as they are a bit better noise performance. I plan to eventually put opa4134's in there place but they need a adapter since there smt.
I checked the bias on the unit. One side was in spec but the other was over .4 volts. I lowered it to .280 which matches the other channel.
The one thing I found odd is if I was monitoring the voltage between the base and emitter on one channel if changed that channel input attenuation setting the base to emitter voltage would change. But I didn't do the same on the other channel. I'm sure this is nothing unusual but it seemed a little odd to me.
Other then that the units in pretty good shape. I'm hoping it will serve me well for many years after the overhaul.
Just wish I could find 2 knobs for it though, or at the very least the security covers.
Nick
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