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yggdrasil
07-23-2012, 03:26 PM
The past year or so I have been spending gradually more time in the office. There is no one close to disturb, so the standard computer speakers was exchanged for a micro stereo during the winter. A huge upgrade, but of course they fell very short...

A month or so ago a friend donated a pair of potato mashers (2410's with 2301). In storage I had a pair of 2215A's.

Here's a shot of the result.

yggdrasil
07-23-2012, 03:34 PM
Obviously the footprint needed to be very small, so the inside of the box leaves less than 1 cm on each side of the drivers and between them. The box is only 28 cm deep.

It is designed as a modified U baffle. The last year or so I have been reading up on open baffles and wanted to try out a variation of a concept Nelson Pass wrote http://www.enjoythemusic.com/diy/0911/slot_loaded_open_baffle_speaker.htm with the accompanying diyaudio thread http://www.diyaudio.com/forums/multi-way/195734-nelson-pass-slot-loaded-open-baffle-project.html

The baffle is actually 22mm chipboard, with 20mm pine glued onto it. The sides and top are also pine.

The cutout in the baffle for the 2215 is approximately 1/3 of the area of the 2215.

Here's a shot of my work desk.

yggdrasil
07-23-2012, 03:50 PM
The design started with building the raw U baffle without the slot.

Actually the design started with some rather anxious measurements of the 2410/2301 combo. The slot loaded ob does not have much hf extention, so the crossover point would have to be a stretch for both drivers.
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Equipped with that measurement there was time to build a U frame and mount a 2215. First a measurement on the ob.
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Then the 2215 was covered leaving a vertical 10cm wide slot.
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Finally I covered the 2215 with a circular opening with d=21cm.
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Given these results I went for the latter.

yggdrasil
07-24-2012, 01:39 PM
It was time to look at crossovers. Given the measurements I aimed at 650Hz, 12dB/octave, passive.

First the high-pass showed this impedance curve:
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I didn't particularly like the impedance peaks in and around the crossover region. Since the 2410/2301 needed to be padded I placed a 15 Ohm resistor in parallell with the driver and measured the impedance again:
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Which was much more pleasing...

Speaker workshop suggested this high-pass filter:
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I had a 3mH inductor lying around, so the network ended up like this:
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yggdrasil
07-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Then I run an impedance plot on the the 2215 in the baffle with the circular slot:
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The low pass network with compensation network ended up like this:
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yggdrasil
07-24-2012, 03:24 PM
First in place measurements:
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There's way too little in the bottom. Which led me to add the following passive circuit between the preamp and poweramp:
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The low frequency improved, but not enough. As a bonus the 2410's now got far too much low frequencies... Due to this I decided to redo the passive circuit. Routing the HF outside the low frequency compensation. The HF leg was built with a 10K pot for easy adjustments. Meaning I needed another poweramp for the HF. The low frequency compensation have also been made steeper.
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No measurements of this setup yet.

pos
07-25-2012, 08:02 AM
Nice build, with up to 10dB boost from the slot loading! Albeit it forces you to cross the woofer lower...
Can we have a picture of the rear?

yggdrasil
08-01-2012, 12:13 PM
Here's a picture of the rear.56476

Hoerninger
08-01-2012, 01:42 PM
Nice project, indeed. :cool:
Do you know the trick to CC without a batterie?
___________
Peter

yggdrasil
08-01-2012, 01:51 PM
Nice project, indeed. :cool:
Do you know the trick to CC without a batterie?
___________
Peter
Thank you. Sounds quite nice too. The OB bass is quite intriguing.

I know about the diode CC, but I got a bag of 50 battery clips for this purpose, so why not use them...

Mr. Widget
08-02-2012, 08:55 AM
Computer speakers? :D

Very interesting indeed... thanks for sharing, and for sharing all of the details!


Widget

Alien_Shore
08-07-2012, 09:04 PM
Computer speakers? :D

Very interesting indeed... thanks for sharing, and for sharing all of the details!


Widget

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Yes!
Thanks for sharing. This is a great educational thread.

(and I now have computer speaker envy) :)

pengesluk
09-12-2012, 01:08 AM
Steike!