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greyhound
12-02-2008, 03:46 AM
does anyone know if the century 500 is a gold model of a different midrange.
like the 050 gold tweeter is the same as the TI 050.
if i wanted to replace this midrange wich model should i take.
i tried to get some info on this but cant find anything.
all help would be welcome.
thnx
Robh3606
12-02-2008, 05:22 AM
At the very least they are cosmetically different with the gold plating. Should be the same midrange as an LSR monitor. Why would you want to change it??
Rob:)
greyhound
12-02-2008, 07:04 AM
there's a guy on my dutch forum that makes great modifications.
(no psycho tweak) this is for real.
but when a speaker has an alluminum voice coil it doesnt work.
so the same driver with a copper voice coil would be the answer. if this is not possible i have to sell my speakers.
i was planning to do this but i just can push myself to do so.
even an alluminium stabelizer ring gives problems.
this modification is higly debated on a dutch forum , but if you listen you cant deny it.
Robh3606
12-02-2008, 08:03 AM
What does the voice coil wire being aluminum or copper have to do with the modifications??
Rob:)
Valentin
12-02-2008, 08:31 AM
C500 mid range is available since it a the same as it is used in LSR6332
there is a problem the basket is different
Guido
12-02-2008, 08:42 AM
Beware Vodoooo ;)
I'm an electrotechnical engineer. I can't see an electrical reason why the winding material should be of any problem.
Maybe it's a metalurgical reason?
BMWCCA
12-02-2008, 09:08 AM
but when a speaker has an alluminum voice coil it doesnt work.
so the same driver with a copper voice coil would be the answer. if this is not possible i have to sell my speakers.
Sorry to butt in where I have no dog in the race, but you all have confused me. In Greyhound's thread in which he decides he's not selling his GCs, one reply insists the mid-range is what makes that system so uniquely wonderful. So what's the problem? Allergies? :dont-know
The mid in the century gold is what make it (and the LSR32/6332) special.(and the gold tweeter is what make it expensive :D)
greyhound
12-02-2008, 11:24 AM
Beware Vodoooo ;)
I'm an electrotechnical engineer. I can't see an electrical reason why the winding material should be of any problem.
Maybe it's a metalurgical reason?
its difficult to understand. there was this dutch inventor who came up with the idea. he was working at the dutch broadcasting corporation.
he passed on his ideas to 2 people wich one of them is a guy at my forum.
he understands this technique. i understand part of it but cant tell anybody exactly what i know.
maybe in the future.
i went to his place to listen to the modifications and it was truly beautifull.
there was a dissapearance of the acoustic of the room.
music was bigger than the system and the room.
like you were there.
im not joking:cool:
greyhound
12-02-2008, 11:25 AM
C500 mid range is available since it a the same as it is used in LSR6332
there is a problem the basket is different
where can i get some info on this driver?
Valentin
12-02-2008, 11:40 AM
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c7/ValentinR/DSC_0004.jpg
here the photo of the driver of my LSR
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c7/ValentinR/DSC_0003.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c7/ValentinR/DSC_0002.jpg
Valentin
12-02-2008, 11:54 AM
this is measurement of the drivers in the LSR Box with out passive XO in an anechoic chamber made at a distance of 2 meters with a calibrated earthworks m30 mic. with the DEQX software and unit
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c7/ValentinR/anecoicalsr6332.jpg
Valentin
12-02-2008, 12:00 PM
close up of the mid range
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c7/ValentinR/anecoicalsr6332closeupmidrange.jpg
greyhound
12-02-2008, 12:59 PM
okay thanks a lot
but this is the same driver. so its safe to say that there's aluminium in it.
im looking for one tahts different.
realy great that you took the time for this
thnx
i cant seem to find any info on jbl midrange drivers.
but there should be a lot out there.
any links?
greyhound
12-02-2008, 01:12 PM
the mid from the TI series might do the trick.
5"
but the search engine of this forum doesnt find anything.
Valentin
12-02-2008, 01:18 PM
its your century gold and you can do anything to it but don't you think your changing the hole design
What you heard in your friend house was another design different components, XO, room acoustics etc etc
do you think that just changing the mid will result in the disappearing act in your system in your room
envelopment is a very important aspect of room acoustics that has to due with lateral reflections and certain frequencies
greyhound
12-02-2008, 01:22 PM
trust me this is something different.
i just have to get rid of the aluminum.
when its done , maybe a forum member who lives nearby can come to listen and post a review.
BMWCCA
12-02-2008, 01:26 PM
i just have to get rid of the aluminum.
http://lolcats.com/images/u/07/24/lolcatsdotcomiy0hwr7nqv87ch3g.jpg
Valentin
12-02-2008, 01:30 PM
try vifa scan speak morel etc etc
it is going to be easier to get than a JBL mid driver
and since the specs are not important the brand should not be either
greyhound
12-02-2008, 02:34 PM
http://lolcats.com/images/u/07/24/lolcatsdotcomiy0hwr7nqv87ch3g.jpg
:applaud:yep i deserve that one
greyhound
12-02-2008, 02:34 PM
try vifa scan speak morel etc etc
it is going to be easier to get than a JBL mid driver
and since the specs are not important the brand should not be either
well i'd like to keep it jbl:)
greyhound
12-02-2008, 03:26 PM
option that came to mind
change the voice coil into a cupper one:)
Valentin
12-02-2008, 03:47 PM
that instantly makes it another thing with different specs not a JBL Driver
but again wish you well in your project
Doctor_Electron
12-04-2008, 05:58 AM
Whew, that cat looks really pissed... does he/she prefer copper, then? :D
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