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ngccglp
06-07-2007, 08:48 AM
I saw this at a Japanese Site. Anyone knows what is this?

macaroonie
06-07-2007, 09:00 AM
probably just a dark grey ink or spirit dye.

edgewound
06-07-2007, 12:09 PM
Here's a handy refresher for paper cones...cheap and easy too.

Thin down good ol' white glue such as Elmer's to a watery-white consistency. Paint on with a 1"-2" bristle paint brush, turning speaker on a turntable, such as a Lazy Susan.....My Lazy Susan is always busy.....good girl :p. The color will come back to life and add a nice clean matte-like finish.

If the cone has been really thrashed like from outdoor use or direct sunlight, probably won't give miraculous results, but a slightly faded indoor cone will looks close to new again.

SMKSoundPro
06-07-2007, 01:10 PM
As compared to using Krylon flat black spray paint?

or...?

A really big Sharpie marker?

What about something like a tire blackening kind of stuff?

or Preference by L'Oreal...#054 Raven...because You're Worth It!

Seriously now - What other types of refresher blackening can you think of to "rejuvenate" the look of tired old woofer paper? Without "damaging" the paper stucture.

I would be very interested to see what some of you come up with!

Scott.

edgewound
06-07-2007, 01:41 PM
Seriously now - What other types of refresher blackening can you think of to "rejuvenate" the look of tired old woofer paper? Without "damaging" the paper stucture.
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How about Grecian Formula? Seriously though....

The story here is anybody can spray paint a cone flat black...Wannabe soundhacks do it all the time.

The real skill here is to make the tired ol' woofer cone look like it used to when it was new....not just flat black. A 2235H isn't just flat black....nor is a 2226, etc.

The thinned white glue treatment does a better job of through optics.....it's not a cover up...it's an adjunct.

GordonW
06-07-2007, 03:33 PM
Be careful with the thinned white glue... I've seen a few JBL cones, which were apparently treated with something oil-based... white glue (or anything else water-based) would just "bead up" and not spread evenly or soak into the surface.

The only woofers I can recall seeing this happen with, are 2241 18" and 2226 15" drivers. And I'm not sure that ALL of them have this property. But it's happened to me, before...

Moral of story: Try on a small area (and have a good wiping rag handy) before covering the whole cone...

Regards,
Gordon.

varice
06-07-2007, 09:36 PM
How about Grecian Formula?

:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

SMKSoundPro
06-07-2007, 09:47 PM
I will try some KIWI parade black boot polish! Yea... That'll work fine!!! To the left,... to the left,... to the right,... to the right,...

I'm sure, R. Lee Ermy would be screamin like a leatherneck at me for not spit polishing...

Semper Fi.

Carry on.

Joe Alesi
06-08-2007, 06:59 AM
I saw this at a Japanese Site. Anyone knows what is this?
Hello Ngccglp,

Sorry I'm not sure of paint/dye/treatment, but it appears to do a great job. I have some speaker repair buddies I will ask about this.

I just noticed your VOTT avatar. I would be interested in your opinion on your 1005 Altec Horn ( I assume you have these) versus a JBL 2350 with 2440 if you have ever compared them.

Thanks in advance

Best
JA

doyall
06-08-2007, 07:17 AM
I saw this at a Japanese Site. Anyone knows what is this?

Air brushing (as in T-shirt painting)?

ngccglp
06-08-2007, 07:45 AM
Hi joe,

I do not have the opportunity to do a comparison, but I have 288-16G and 1005B and it produces a very very huge soundstage, a lot of weight to the bass when compared with 802/511B. however, you need to equalize it to get a flat response for home use. If I'm not wrong, JBL usually would require a ring radiator (075, 077).

ngccglp
06-10-2007, 10:53 PM
I saw some water-based stain in IKEA for their furniture. Can those be used to refresh the color of the original cones?

Thom
06-16-2007, 03:49 PM
I don't know if it's enough to hurt anything or if it may be a benefit, but most paints will add weight. When I used to put new pointers on meters I bought the pointer stock in bulk and cut and colored it for the particular meter. If I used paint, not only was it a bitch to balance but it would continually need rebalanced over the next several weeks. I learned to use felt tip markers and balancing was much easier and they stayed balanced. Also I know paint can alter the suspension. Again I guess this could be good or evil. I have never done this but I would think a little ink in an aerosol should be effective. Of course if you believe what it says on the label of Armor-all, but I don't.

I learned to put pointers on, and repair meters, just as the whole world went digital.