I finally got there with my recovery project. 4315's that have a long story behind them. The original cabinets were destroyed by water and then subsequent rebuilds were not satisfactory. I had had problems with the x/o as well which were resolved with some help from Forum members { thanks Giskard } needed some new chokes and a couple of caps. The ports are on the back ' I used Balvenie 12 year old Doublewood whisky bottle tubes. dont use the 10 year old they just don't sound right. Anyway they sound just grand although I had forgotten that they soak power. My old Accuphase E202 just gets there but just . . . Hope you all like the look of them. I might make some grills but I doubt it.