Tim makes a good point about the PA amp ..... the high end JBL's will show up anything weak in the chain.
I use class A or Valves .... Digital format @ high bit rates through a stand alone DAC into these !
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...624&viewfull=1
I found lesser amplification too bright also , but getting better amps has made all the difference .
If I wanted a JBL party speaker I would have kept the 4345's
I did have a pair of Klipsch RF 30's ... I think thats what they were . Quite old .... they didn't age much more in my possession either . I didn't find them very musical ,driven bi-wired with 2 X QUAD 909's
I have found that the better my system has become ,the smaller my music collection has become . Poor recordings don't get played when I want to enjoy the best qualities of the system !
I am playing with valves too, at this point.
Yamaha P5000S should be perfectly flat, not bright, but who knows.
It's fun to play with different amps
This one has less wide, not so finely defined sound stage and a bit more noise, compared with Yamaha P5000S.
The problem with the music collection does exist, I have it too.
I still think you need to get the speakers checked over for piece of mind ... then start trying different gear .
The 840 is a highly regarded CD , but not by me . I'm a firm believer that the Array 1400 deserves better
signal processing .
It would be nice to move them away from that back wall a metre and give them a listen ...
We all have different priorities when it comes to how much room and money to allocate to this hobby ....
I'm sad, as its my highest priority . With a pair of speakers like yours I would not give up till they were
what I wanted
1) running the Cambridge straight into the yamaha
(no line amp)?
2) I listened to Spanish Sky on two different JBL horn
based systems today... TiDome's K2s and my own 'custom'
setup. With the K2's I could hear more of the studio
processing... which has a reverb/echo with the delayed
signal rolled off... it does have a bit of a dual voice
character (not an overdub or simple delay). My thought
is that you are hearing more of that aspect of the
recording, whether 'correct' or somehow enhanced in
your listening environment.
1) Yes -> Cambridge Audio 840C 2.1V output directly into input sensitivity 6dBu. Nothing to smear the sound between the source and the amplifier. RCA and XLR outputs sound the same.
2) That's nice to hear. Yes, it sounds as if the lower registers of his voice come later and separated from the higher registers. As if the horn was playing half of his voice and the rest of it came from the woofer. Thank you for doing the test.
As richluvsound said, better the loudspeaker, less music we can enjoy.
Hm, that doesn't seem right, does it?
That's the context I mentioned JBL S312II's in. With them, all the music sounds nice and rarely you think something is bothering you. The combination of VirtueAudio TWO -> JBL S312II is really good.
With Arrays, I have to look for the music that sounds ok.
Most of it was produced horribly, compression, digital clipping (ok, that one I can hear on S312II's too), horribly armed soundstage, with the drums taking up the whole stage, hi-hats on left and right side, singer to the left, piano size of a bus etc.
That's why valves help, they smear everything a bit, so it makes us less aware of all the faults in the production, IMHO.
... well what can I say , everyone who has build a cabinet knows what it means when it resonate , but if other members have the speakers and they are not having the same problem , either something is wrong with your speaker or configuration . You must then hear an array 1400 that doesn´t resonate to really know if you are missing something .
Also I do not think those speakers rated at 89dB sensibility can be well driven by a 1 watt "mini amp" , I have a pair of "over 100db" sensitivity speakers driven by 1.5 watts and they are "just enough" to get good sound .
yep BoPutnam is a sound engineer and he has said the same thing (he's got 4345 monitors) - some speakers are like high end analysis tools - you can hear every flaw. Good if you are mixing records and WANT to hear every glitch - but if you just want to enjoy the music, maybe not so good!
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