Speaker Placement a Key to Imaging

[toddalin]

OK so is this with changes? Have you changed anything or just going with smoothest FR response like your prior set-up?

Rob

Smooth response, but really no changes here. The track is not from my stereo. The camera mic would never capture that much localization in the room for subsequent publication on YouTube.

The post is to show what is attainable with good imaging and the Rhodes on this track provides a really wide image. I've never been able to get to this level with the L200/300s, or anything else for that matter.

Does the Rhodes fill the entire "front of the house" or does it stay pretty much between/just beyond the speakers on other people's systems?

[Robh3606]

Hello Toddalin

That's a wild effect! It goes across the front wall well beyond the speakers almost like it's wrapping around. Tried it on 2 systems off the CD my M2's so 15 and 4" CD and F206's cones and domes. Better on the M2 probably because of set-up.

Reminds me of Q Sound. If you have not all ready try Roger Waters Amused to Death, lots of wild stuff, fun listen.

Rob

[Mr. Widget]

Does the Rhodes fill the entire "front of the house" or does it stay pretty much between/just beyond the speakers on other people's systems?

Waaaaay beyond.

I just played the Sheep track on two systems. My Project Widgets and my HT Meyer Sound Ultra-X20s. I haven't bothered to verify if the Meyers are time aligned, but they probably are since the geometry and DSP make it pretty easy to do. My Project Widgets are totally old school like a 43XX... different arrival times for the different drivers (and it's a 4-way)

Both systems created a nicely 3D soundstage for the sheep and birds with the piano extending far off to the left and right of the speakers. For this track at least, time alignment doesn't seem to be necessary.

Rob, I agree it does seem to almost wrap around. I've heard that effect on a couple of other stereo recordings where they seem almost surround sound.


Widget

[toddalin]

The stereo panning effect was actually built right into the later Rhodes without the need for external equipment other than a stereo amp and speakers to really take advantage of it.

[toddalin]

Another perfect example of the Rhodes "autopan" feature on a cut that everyone is familiar with. I need to see if I have this one to listen to on the Mermans to see if it's as wide as the Floyd cut.

https://youtu.be/ghLWjyOOLno

And another comes to mind.
https://youtu.be/u6jHlW414sQ

Note the "Chorus/Vibrato" knobs and separate L/R outputs.

Actually, this brings up a question that I've never seen addressed..., does a panned sound create a doppler shift and it's attendant change in pitch (a true vibrato)? I'm thinking "no." While the sound appears to move, it is an illusion of either channel getting louder/quieter and nothing physically moves.

[grumpy]

Small world. I know the owner of that garage & keyboard

[DerekTheGreat]

Reminds me of another piano from a particular movie:
"Uh.. uh, there's nothing wrong with the action on that piano."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdbrIrFxas0