A loose corollary to "proper drivers properly applied"...

[4313B]

Another very nice post Mike.

I think you're hitting hard at my fundamental problems with this forum with your last couple of posts. While I thoroughly enjoy people like Mr. Endriol mucking up other forums on the net I simply don't want to see that garbage here. This isn't a waste dump. And, as a bunch of us have discussed, we've been experiencing a WHOLE LOTTA waste dumping lately.

You're absolutely right. A 2242H is a 2242H and if you want one pony up. What I find so hard to grasp is that there are people coming to this forum not realizing that. I guess I naively thought this site would attract only the people who knew what Lansing was all about. I simply had no idea it would end up the way it has. :dont-know

Every once in awhile I'll go and read all the information Don and Steve and others have so graciously contributed and then I come back to the forums. It just doesn't jive for me. It's kind of disconnected feeling. Oh well... as Don said several times - "You built these forums Giskard."
I guess I f'ed up

Point is, people seem predisposed to not want to acknowledge the inevitable trade-offs or compromises, which are present to some degree even in a price-no-object scenario. Can't hide from it. What did Paul Klipsch say again? It was a great quote that came down to hiding the compromises.

Nice!

[rek50]

I happened on to this site, thirsting for audio information. WOW, am I ever impressed. Studying various posts provided ideas and motivation to aquire JBL components to repair non JBL speakers. The "Repairs" sounded better than the original speakers'


Then I got a pair of 4412's. Great sound to me (Albeit lower "JBL Food Chain"). I was still gathering JBL components (impressed with info of posts) 2214H, 104H-2, 035Ti, L-112 NetWorks, to "Play" with. Understand, this "Audio Thing" is a Hobby to me.

I now realize that my "Play" or asking for info, is "Garbage" to some. It was never my intent to "Pollute" here. I quess my "Play" is due, in part, to my outlook: "It's NOT what you can buy that counts, but rather WHAT you can build".

I don't think that I know more/better than JBL engineers. I don't think I know a better driver choice/application, than JBL. Again, to me it's "Play".

IMO, JBL components are second to none. I hope the JBL Alumni/Brethren can find some satisfaction in my purchasing of JBL components, inspite of me "Playing" with them as I choose.

[4313B]

Now rek50 you know you aren't a problem.

Don't personalize something that has nothing to do with you.

And feel free to play in the DIY sandbox. It's there expressly for that reason.

I now realize that my "Play" or asking for info, is "Garbage" to some. It was never my intent to "Pollute" here.

This is just wrong proving once again that I have poor language skills. Oh wait... People never see themselves how other people see them (and if they do they usually kill themselves) so the people the statement actually applies to will never get it while the rest who it doesn't apply to will. Oh well, it's out there, I tried, I feel better.

[norealtalent]

Partial

... And feel free to play in the DIY sandbox. It's there expressly for that reason.

But please don't pee in the pool

[4313B]

Yeah, and don't pick up the stinky little brown things covered with sand and put them in your mouth either for crying out loud!

[edgewound]

I happened on to this site, thirsting for audio information. WOW, am I ever impressed. Studying various posts provided ideas and motivation to aquire JBL components to repair non JBL speakers. The "Repairs" sounded better than the original speakers'


Then I got a pair of 4412's. Great sound to me (Albeit lower "JBL Food Chain"). I was still gathering JBL components (impressed with info of posts) 2214H, 104H-2, 035Ti, L-112 NetWorks, to "Play" with. Understand, this "Audio Thing" is a Hobby to me.

I now realize that my "Play" or asking for info, is "Garbage" to some. It was never my intent to "Pollute" here. I quess my "Play" is due, in part, to my outlook: "It's NOT what you can buy that counts, but rather WHAT you can build".

I don't think that I know more/better than JBL engineers. I don't think I know a better driver choice/application, than JBL. Again, to me it's "Play".

IMO, JBL components are second to none. I hope the JBL Alumni/Brethren can find some satisfaction in my purchasing of JBL components, inspite of me "Playing" with them as I choose.

That's a good post, and good thoughts. My interpretation of the new DIY forum was to let people have fun with their JBL tinkering and learn the drivers' limitations/applications and be creative in their projects. Some projects will be plain-fare JBL factory vanilla (read "stock"... clones, ok? no comments please..I think you know what I mean) and range to "check that out....wow...why didn't I think of that?" spectacular. I think the masters' guidance is cool so one doesn't cause undo damage to the killer compression driver with the mondo expensive diaphragm...I mean really, the regulars here are not stupid people...after all, they've discovered JBL, and love it....and some....most...members sit back and watch and read and experiment and enjoy the show....this is what having a hobby is all about. Most weekend golfers would never pay to play again if they feared they were going to be ridiculed and laughed at everytime they swung the club. My Dad was a very respected aerospace contracts executive who used to say "people are no damn good"....and it's proven daily...everywhere...but he demonstrated the philosophy of "what goes around, comes around", and he had many good friends.

[4313B]

My interpretation of the new DIY forum was to let people have fun with their JBL tinkering and learn the drivers' limitations/applications and be creative in their projects.

Most weekend golfers would never pay to play again if they feared they were going to be ridiculed and laughed at everytime they swung the club.

Do you feel people get ridiculed here?

[edgewound]

Do you feel people get ridiculed here?

Yes...periodically. And the comments carry over to other threads. But that's just people.

[4313B]

And they're no damn good anyway so there you have it.

Let's work on the ridicule issue, perceived or real.

[edgewound]

Let's work on the ridicule issue, perceived or real.

My comments were in agreement with Rek50's thoughts, so I guess maybe I'm not the only one that perceives that concept...whether it is real or perceived.

It's probably more productive to let it go. There can be sooo much misunderstanding at times due to syntactical issues from typing thoughts versus the interpersonal interaction with actually talking with someone face to face...or even on the phone. Yes? No? Maybe so?

Now we're way off topic...

[4313B]

I can't let this one go.

I now realize that my "Play" or asking for info, is "Garbage" to some. It was never my intent to "Pollute" here.

I thought I was clear by putting the word Endirol or how ever the hell you spell it in the same paragraph. I'm certainly not going to bother looking up the correct spelling. And after reading over everything I guess I went a bit off topic. I thought the Garbage was quite apparent. One that comes to mind is the Hal Cox thread. I haven't read it in a long time but my perception of the whole thing is still stuck in my mind and it isn't a rosy memory. Another is the JBL can't take no power thread which people actually responded to for some idiotic reason. I would have simply deleted the fucking thing because it belongs on another forum, not Lansing Heritage. Whatever happened with the subwoof issue? Wasn't there a bunch of garbage associated with that? Anyway, the point is, I sure hope rek50 really doesn't feel like his posts asking for info are garbage.

[hapy._.face]

Another is the JBL can't take no power thread which people actually responded to for some idiotic reason. I would have simply deleted the fucking thing because it belongs on another forum

Yeah, I just bought a used pair of those JBL sub/sat computer speakers and tri-amped em to my Fairchild (top end) and Threshold (bottom end). I put a Crown amp on the cutsie little sub that came with it. They sound like CRAP! What a POS JBL speakers are. Anything over 60wpc- and they are toast. Guess I'll be parting these out- if there's a market for pie plate tweeters...


Quote from edgewound:
'...My Dad was a very respected aerospace contracts executive who used to say "people are no damn good"...'

Giskard- did you work for edgewound's dad ?!?

Mr Baker (is it?): Well said as usual. You've been on a roll with the whole 'nail on the head' thing. I'm learnin'.

[mikebake]

Mr Baker (is it?)

It's Master Baker to you................

[hapy._.face]

It's Master Baker to you................

lol. yeah? ...not unless I'm learning karate it ain't. Besides, it sounds too much like master baiter. I'll stick with "sir". That's as formal as I get. Just cause I put a blazer on a tshirt- its still no black tie event.

[mikebake]

You're absolutely right. A 2242H is a 2242H and if you want one pony up. What I find so hard to grasp is that there are people coming to this forum not realizing that.

"I thought you wanted something like a 2245H?"
"I do"
"Save up and get one"
"Ehhh, I'd rather not, I'm just screwing around, really"
"I kinda thought so..."

I always thought I shoulda hung onto a 2245H just to pull it out of the box every once in awhile and just admire it. What a neat piece. Yes, I'm a sick person.............