How bad is an LE111A refoamed on the wrong side?

[BMWCCA]

I got the seller of the Craig's List L110s to send me a close up of the refoam job. Looks very nice but the surround is attached to the front of the cone. Now I know it looks wrong (and IS wrong), but other than for reasons of purity, will it harm the sound or the speaker? Should I pass? How do you feel it impacts the value of an otherwise nice pair of L110s? Worth a lower offer?

Thanks,

-Phil

[louped garouv]

Worth a lower offer?

of course... always worth a shot, right...

sonically, i think this has been gone over -- don't remember the result tho' -- never had to deal with this particular issue....

[Earl K]

- Personally, I'd like to see the owners' of such tragedies forced to "part-out" their lame attempts at executing proper repairs.

- Until the "market" recognizes these guys ( the guys' doing the repairs ) are bone-heads, nothing will change.

- Offering false platitudes of reassurance that it just doesn't matter , only exacerbates this festering situation .

- & FWIW , the le111a is not the same as the le111h or the le10h or the le10h-1 ( too bad about that obsolete alnico magnet - what a waste of a good coil ). It has more coil in the gap , giving it a lower Qts figure ( along with a higher BL quotient / so only "truely hopeless" speaker-holics will appreciate these type of figures ). Ie; much less low bass / but a lot more resolution from what's there ( usually appreciated more by the Japanese ).

- Want North American bass for the masses ? Buy some 123a-3(s) or 2213H(s) and enjoy the "plump but firm bassness" that they provide .

[BMWCCA]

- Personally, I'd like to see the owners' of such tragedies forced to "part-out" their lame attempts at executing proper repairs.

Even sadder when he's paid someone he says is listed as a JBL-authorized repair station to do it for him! (Winston Electronics, St. Louis, if you need to know.)

- & FWIW , the le111a is not the same as the le111h or the le10h or the le10h-1 ( too bad about that obsolete alnico magnet - what a waste of a good coil ). It has more coil in the gap , giving it a lower Qts figure ( along with a higher BL quotient / so only "truely hopeless" speaker-holics will appreciate these type of figures ). Ie; much less low bass / but a lot more resolution at what's there ( are you Japanese ? ).

- Want North American bass for the masses ? Buy some 123a-3(s) or 2213H(s) and enjoy the "plump but firm bassness" that they provide .

Well, I grew up listening to an 030 system which I still use today, 50-years later, in a stereo pair. You might say my ears are used to "much less low bass / but a lot more resolution..."

Thanks for the comments. If I buy them I'll never know what they could have sounded like since I'd be hesitant to try a re-surround. They'd likely need a recone which I figure on these would have to be done for love since it'd be hard to justify the money!

[Audiobeer]

Even sadder when he's paid someone he says is listed as a JBL-authorized repair station to do it for him! (Winston Electronics, St. Louis, if you need to know.)

I had some woofers reconed by Winston......what a crap job!

[BMWCCA]

I had some woofers reconed by Winston......what a crap job!

FWIW, this is the reply I got from Winston (still listed on the JBL site as an authorized repair facility) when I asked them why the surround was put on the front:

The reason for gluing on the top of the cone is a sunken spider. This pulls the speaker back up. This does not effect the sound or acoustics of the speaker.

Now I know next to nothing about this but it would seem that putting the surround in front would, if anything, push the "speaker" downward. Is this a bunch of smoke and mirrors?