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    Quote Originally Posted by edgewound
    Wow...talk about spoiled, dude. You want Ford GT performance on a Pinto budget. JBL celebrates 60 years in business this year....no wonder they have so many models. Did you expect a warm welcome? You got's no manner's, dude.

    You can go to Harman Direct....right now....and order up a pair of K2's for $30,000.00

    Here's the link....order up a pair of 1000watt powered subs while you're there:
    Go to the bottom of the page.

    http://www.harmanaudio.com/search_br...s=C&market=HOM
    So according to you,$30,000 is what you need to spend to get a good quality JBL speaker that fits the bill?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike33
    So according to you,$30,000 is what you need to spend to get a good quality JBL speaker that fits the bill?
    LOL. No- he's just proving a point: JBL makes high end. There is a wide array of prices that reflect the quality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Widget
    So come on people what do you recommend for awesome sound for under $1500 in the used market.
    - Not sure about the "awesome" label, but for a fully domed system ; buying that pair of L5s' ( currently up on eBay in Florida ) along with the same sellers' le120h-1 12" woofs ( in need of some DIY 2.5cu' sub cabinets ) would make a heck of an affordable, "classic" starter system ( most likely for less than a $1000.00 ) .



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    Quote Originally Posted by hapy._.face
    Mike33-


    What kind of music do you listen to?? JBL speakers/monitors tend to be "specialists". Pick the wrong one, and you're SOL. What is your listening room like (dimensions, carpet, etc..) ??
    RocknRoll/Country. and maybe some harder stuff once in a while.
    Not into jazz/classical but do like blues as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike33
    So according to you,$30,000 is what you need to spend to get a good quality JBL speaker that fits the bill?
    Well...no....that's how I interpreted your wants. That's what JBL has, right now, that's new that will do what you ask. Otherwise, you're going to have to invest some time and research....and probably get your hands a little dirty to get what you're after on a budget.

    I'm sorry, but you barged in here with an attitude and experienced Newton's Third Law.

    You will find more quality help here than any other forum on the internet. The only brand that really gets bashed around here is Bose.

    So....with that...welcome...you're gonna have fun....and maybe make some new friends. BTW, what part of the world are you from? You can add a hint in the User CP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike33
    RocknRoll/Country. and maybe some harder stuff once in a while.
    Not into jazz/classical but do like blues as well.
    Let's see- you like it loud (somewhat). You like 2 channel only. and sometimes you like the 'harder stuff'. No brainer, dude: pick a pair of classic monitors!!! The choices are numerous. Do some reading on this forum- take the time to browse the photo gallery and read some specs. Do a search on one that catches your eye and read up on what owning a pair is like. A little legwork here will put you in sonic heaven. You will be EXTREMELY pressed to find a pair of modern day speakers that performs like a pair of vintage JBL monitors (especially for the dough)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hapy._.face
    lol. who?? I hope you aren't implying"me"!
    No, it was years ago.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Widget
    So come on people what do you recommend for awesome sound for under $1500 in the used market.
    For this guy? A pair of 4628B's, 4698B's or 4699B's.

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    First, just because it says JBL on the front doesn't mean its a great speaker. JBL make speakers for cars, computers and iPods! They make quality products in many price ranges and for different intended uses. Many of us here on this forum look to the JBL studio monitors for the speakers that satisfy us. These studio monitors were designed for high level (loud) playback with plenty of deep lows, clear mids and great top end. These also were efficient designs that can put the listener IN the music! In terms of low end - these generally used 15" woofers in large, ported cabinets.

    Secondly, I believe that one should "balance" their sound system in terms of the quality and price of the componants. The speakers should cost about as much as the power amp in order to get the potential into the room. If you scrimp on either one you'll get a bad impression of the quality available.

    Tom

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    Cool In my youth

    I blew many 8" and 10" speakers hoping for 12" output. It's just not going to happen. Even the finest 8" and 10" drivers can be overdriven and destroyed with too much power (or too little). I've also whacked a few 12" and 15" drivers over the years, too, but that was usually the fault of an underachieving amp that killed 'em with clipping.

    I'm happy to say that none of the drivers I've blown thus far have been JBL. My 8" and 10" destruction days were before I could afford speakers with quality 12" drivers. (JBL did replace a 12" due to a manufacturing defect in 1973.)

    Yes, there are some fine dual 8" and 10" combos, like the SVA1800 and SVA2100 that can kick some serious butt, but even they stop short of giving that extra 5-10Hz at the bottom end that only a 12" can really deliver in satisfying dB, or that extra 10+Hz that you can coax out of a 14", 15", or 18" driver.

    Amps and drivers need to have a realistic relation to each other. If you've got big balls, wear big pants.
    Out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike33
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    I want cristal clear sound that does not LACK bass and sounds musical and not dull and boring.
    The type of speaker you can hear the singers breath......
    The type of speaker that makes you get excited to hear and makes you go wow.
    The type of speaker that does not sound great in everything but lack bass.
    I want the bass to hit you in the chest and sound clean and powerfull.

    Can JBL do this?...
    JBL IS Just Bitchin' Loudspeakers. Come for a visit to Binghamton, NY and you'll hear for yourself. GUARANTEED TO PLEASE! If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand...
    Welcome to the forum, Dave

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    Hmmm.....

    I've NEVER had a problem like yours. I wouldn't judge GM products to be all bad if I had a clapped-out 89' Chevette! I'd consider that they also made the Corvette too, wouldn't you?. I'd consider also that there are thousands of people all over the world that are part of this site and I can't seem to find the "Bose Heritage Site" and don't even want to for that matter. Reconsider your position and find a pair of top shelf models, LISTEN, then post again. I believe your opinion will be quite different. Good Luck, Steve G.
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    just find a pair of 4430's lol they may be your ticket to what you are looking for. Dave I still need to make a trip to hear your toys. I wont forget the tube amps either lol.

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    oh on the power thing, the 2258's in the double 18's at my shop sit all day long on one channel of a Itech 6000 almost in clip and love every second of it.

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    Well i looked on ebay and did not really see anything and also looked at the reviews of the 4430 and some said they had no bass and the crossover was garbage (they said that, not me lol).
    What about bose or cerwin vega?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike33
    Well i looked on ebay and did not really see anything and also looked at the reviews of the 4430 and some said they had no bass and the crossover was garbage (they said that, not me lol).
    The 4430 isn't all things to all people. There are many who really love them and others who respect them, but have decided to move on. The crossovers certainly are not garbage, but they are not made up of uber expensive "audiophile" parts either. The 4435 which was recommended by a couple of members most certainly does not lack bass, but it seems to be beyond your means anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike33
    What about bose or cerwin vega?
    You are either quite unaware or you are just here to pull our chains.


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