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    Serial Number registry?

    So I've heard a few times that JBL AND Altec records of serial numbers were lost (Altec in a fire, JBL in the Northridge earthquake)

    Is there any interest in establishing a serial number registry on the Lansing Heritage site to reconstruct some of that information?
    Maybe enough info could be accumulated to nail down some "landmark" dates that wouold be userful to members.
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    to me it sounds good

    Quote Originally Posted by glen
    So I've heard a few times that JBL AND Altec records of serial numbers were lost (Altec in a fire, JBL in the Northridge earthquake)

    Is there any interest in establishing a serial number registry on the Lansing Heritage site to reconstruct some of that information?
    Maybe enough info could be accumulated to nail down some "landmark" dates that wouold be userful to members.
    Hi ,

    pls have a look to my thread from Febr. 2004
    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...96&postcount=1

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    Good Idea

    Might be interesting just to see how many units are still in tact and can be accounted for and what part of the country they are in now.

    It would be best if the database was accessable by all so that one person did not have to be responsible to input the data. Not even sure if this is possible.

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    For the database to be definitive, the date of manufacture would have to be known, which is what nobody knows.

    The general "Vintage" for most products may be determined from the catalogs in the site library.

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    numerous items on Ebay

    There are numerous items on ebay for sale, catalogs,brochure's etc; and etc;.
    maybe we can have a separate donation to a chosen member to buy all this stuff on ebay,I'm sure there's alot of stuff out there we don't have? Eventually this stuff would have to be inserted into a spreadsheet somehow. There is never to much information too have. Let me know when you want my serial numbers.

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    250ti teak

    Serial no.
    right: 02243
    left: 02000

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    registry

    Quote Originally Posted by larsne View Post
    250ti teak......
    thanks larsne,

    "registered"

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    suggestion how to post serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hofmannhp
    Hi ,

    pls have a look to my thread from Febr. 2004
    http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...96&postcount=1

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    Thanks Hoffmann,

    I didn't find your thread when I searched for "serial numbers".
    But it's obvious that the response here has been positively lukewarm!

    Well, I proceed undeterred.
    If someone thinks it's pointless they don't need to participate,
    but enough numbers could eventually generate some useful information.

    If you're ever at a point where you have the serial numbers for your vintage system at hand please post them here.

    Since we are trying to establish a correlation between serial numbers/model numbers/years of manufacture I would propose only two types of posting:

    1. Speaker systems or parts that are accompanied by a dated receipt from the original dealer, or some other factory/dealer date (quality check slip, inspected by...). These would be as close as we'd get to a Gold Standard, of course they'll be exceptionally rare.

    2. Speaker systems that include all their original parts, which would have been produced at the same time. Enough of these would eventually build up a picture of the progression of serial numbers/model numbers as products were introduced and discontinued over the years. Combining this info with known dates of short-lived models would give us some rough landmarks in the time line.

    Other Suggestions:
    Pictures add some info (material, shape and postion of the model number/serial number lable can be deciphered by some experts), but please don't make them too big.

    Even if you include a picture in the post please write out the information in text. This will allow the posts to be searchable for the info.

    As a search aid I would suggest a format like:
    (model) "serial number" (the actual number)
    examples:
    olympus serial number 55555555 from 1963
    LE85 serial number 5555555

    So one could search specifically for "olympus serial number" making the high-lighted "hits" easier to spot in the thread.

    I'll post a couple of my original (I believe) systems to the thread next week
    glen

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    I would love to get a key for deciphering the old serial # scheme used back in the 50's.

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    A database containing as much info as possible would also help if something was stolen.

    I speak from experience!

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    Database with serial numbers

    Quote Originally Posted by Rolf
    A database containing as much info as possible would also help if something was stolen.

    I speak from experience!

    Rolf
    Hi All,

    I made the first step.....and sent Kingjames the list
    when he's ready he can send it to the next member (but only one) to get a chain.

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    Registry List

    what's about this...

    List with all usefull information about speakers history.....and perhaps also a tool against ebay fraudsters.

    HP

    PS: If you want, send me your input
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    I think this is a great idea. Is it still happening? Am I to just submit the serial numbers from my cabinets and drivers along with my name?



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    Hi Superbee,

    I think it would be great if you post your serial numbers to the thread. Your name will be on the post. I am more interested in systems (groups of components made at the same time) and/or serial numbered items with dated receipts or some other solid way of determining their "birthday". Establishing the relationship of multiple serial numbered components could help create a sort of "Rosetta stone" establishing the timeline of large groups of components from a handful of dates.

    Also Hofmannhp has been compiling a really great, more comprehensive, spreadsheet that will likely end up posted on the forum sometime in the future. Please send him a PM to add your info.
    glen

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    ebay C34

    currently up for auction on ebay:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-JBL-Sign...QQcmdZViewItem

    description from auction:
    This is a wonderful speaker with a beautiful cabinet and all components are original and excellent conditon, includes a cabinet; made with plywood and is in excellent condition with small scratches. Dimensions of the cabinet are: H-39 X W-23 X L-22. This includes: oneJBL LE driver with 1217-1290 horn and lens combination ;excellent,o riginal with intact red seals. ONEJBL model 130- A signature 15 in. woofer 16 OHM in all original. Serial #:12961 with a crossover network model # N-1200.Serial #1769.

    I think the cabinet may be home-built.
    But looks like a complete/correct 001 system:
    130A serial number 12961
    175 serial number 4076
    1217-1290 horn lens serial number 1925
    N1200 serial number 1769
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