Horn system pictures

[bigblock1970]

I agree. I really love the 2405 and am currently looking for a decent deal on some 2440 41 45 46's I think this will really finish them off well. I know it is not optimum, it was what I had. I do love the 2482's though. We plan on trying some 2402's with the 82's to see if that is a better match.

They are VERY DYNAMIC!!

Thanks to all for the input. Any other ideas are appreciated.

PS I do have a wife and SHE ROCKS!! She actually drove 1400 miles with me to pick up the Levis and 4560's and 4550's I could not ask for better!!

[pos]

maybe a 2403 (076) could also go low enough?
You could also use the new 2407 or 2408 ring radiators with some small smith horn?

[Woofer]

I agree. I really love the 2405 and am currently looking for a decent deal on some 2440 41 45 46's I think this will really finish them off well. I know it is not optimum, it was what I had. I do love the 2482's though. We plan on trying some 2402's with the 82's to see if that is a better match.

They are VERY DYNAMIC!!

Thanks to all for the input. Any other ideas are appreciated.

PS I do have a wife and SHE ROCKS!! She actually drove 1400 miles with me to pick up the Levis and 4560's and 4550's I could not ask for better!!

You could try putting some 2420's between the 2482's and the 2405's.
Sometimes a pair of 2420's can be got for less than a pair of 2402's, and the extra power handling is a bonus.
Plus the fact that they'd allow you much more flexibility with crossover points.

[Mr. Widget]

You could try putting some 2420's between the 2482's

I am not sure what I would try, but I would not buy a pair of 2402s or 075s and try to cross them over low enough for the 2482s. Since you said you liked the 2405s, I doubt you will find the 2402s satisfying.


Widget

[Woofer]

I am not sure what I would try, but I would not buy a pair of 2402s or 075s and try to cross them over low enough for the 2482s. Since you said you liked the 2405s, I doubt you will find the 2402s satisfying.


Widget

.... but, but, that's why I said 2420's, not 2402!

[Mr. Widget]

.... but, but, that's why I said 2420's, not 2402!

I know.

I was comenting on your post #138 and Block's post #136.


Widget

[Woofer]

I know.

I was comenting on your post #138 and Block's post #136.


Widget

Sorry Widget, I thought you had misread that I had written 2420 for 2402.

I personally love the 2482's, so tight and rich for vocals, and I think that using either a 2420 or 2410, or even a 2470 upgraded with a '20/21 diaphragm, would be much more useable between the '82 and '05, as they would cover a pretty good spectrum (at least 800Hz to ? depending on which .pdf you read), then you could bring in the slot wherever it sounds best. Pro'ly 'round 10KHz (plus or minus 2KHz-ish) which would run them out to 20KHz-ish. (again, depending on which .pdf you read)
The fact that you can run the '82 down to 300Hz (given the correct horn) makes them an awesome force to contend with.
Using a 2440 is a bit of overkill and a tad dearer than a 2420.

[bigblock1970]

Thanks for the input. I have a set of 175's that I took out of the previous setup I had. I will try putting those in and give it a listen. I am running 4 way active now with a BSS fds-318. I have a pair of 3105 crossovers that I can put between the 175 and the 2405. I guess I should keep my eye out for a "Baby Smith" horn for the 175. Any thoughts on another horn choice.

Thanks

Russ

[Woofer]

Thanks for the input. I have a set of 175's that I took out of the previous setup I had. I will try putting those in and give it a listen. I am running 4 way active now with a BSS fds-318. I have a pair of 3105 crossovers that I can put between the 175 and the 2405. I guess I should keep my eye out for a "Baby Smith" horn for the 175. Any thoughts on another horn choice.

Thanks

Russ

Russ,
The 175 would be good.
If you're budget minded, and while you're still experimenting, try and find a pair of 2370's cheap, and use them while you're waiting for a pair of "Baby Smith's" to come along.
I was fortunate enough to get a pair for free from one of our fellow members here, (for which I am still truly grateful), so that will give you an idea of their current value.
What horn did you have on the 175, and is it 8 or 16 ohms?
The 3105 (7KHz) is the x-over to use, but it is 8 Ohm for the highs, and 16 ohms for the Lows, so be careful with your impedance matching.

Cheers,
Woofer.

[bigblock1970]

i had the 175's on 2344. I can use these they are just so big, I hated to block more of the 2220. My 2405's are 16 and 175 8 ohm. My friend has some DDS CFD ENG 1-90 PRO - 1" 90°x 90° WAVEGUIDE HORNs. that we were talking about trying. What are thoughts on 2407's on these DDS horns?? In hopes to keep it 4 way?

[Woofer]

i had the 175's on 2344. I can use these they are just so big, I hated to block more of the 2220. My 2405's are 16 and 175 8 ohm. My friend has some DDS CFD ENG 1-90 PRO - 1" 90°x 90° WAVEGUIDE HORNs. that we were talking about trying. What are thoughts on 2407's on these DDS horns?? In hopes to keep it 4 way?

The 175's and the 2344 would be fine. Jeez, who wouldn't want a pair of those? ....regardless of their size. Like the ol' saying goes, "Big is Best".
The 3105 is the odd one out as even though it has a Hi output at 8 Ohms, it will work with the 16 Ohm 2405, (I know it's confusing, but it's been discussed at length elsewhere on this Forum), but due to it's 16 Ohm Lo output would not suit the 8 Ohm 175's.
As far as the DDS CFD ENG 1-90 PRO's are concerned, try putting together what you have first, try it out, and if you like it, then make your decision.
No point spending when you don't have to.
You have a couple of different combo's you could try first.

4-way: 2242/2220/175-2344/2405
5-way: 2242/2220/2482-2344/175-adaptor-2397/2405 (via a separate amp running full range straight into the 3105 feeding the 2405 only)
Although, I can't remember if the 2344 is 1" or 2". If the former, then there goes that idea.

[pos]

What are thoughts on 2407's on these DDS horns?? In hopes to keep it 4 way?

You will find many good comments about this horn used with the BMS version of the 2407H (the original version). You will have to specifically order a screw on version of this horn.

I am using my 2407 on the H45E horn from Dayton:
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=270-314

It should go down to 4khz without problem, and they also make a bigger version (and also round ones). These are really cheap. They are resonably well made (with plastic mounting thread, but the 2407 is light).

John W. also designed some horn for his 2407, to replace a 2403:
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s....php?t=17617#2

He also designed a two way system with this driver, with a small smith horn (should be a version of the 1200Hz smith horn that are described somewhere on these forums) :
http://audioheritage.org/vbulletin/s...ad.php?t=21202

[bigblock1970]

I oopsed on the ohms. the 175's are 16 and the 2405's are 8

Sorry.

I will check out the other threads on the 2407

Thanks again.

[1audiohack]

I just love this world of audio!

I was in MI last weekend and got to hear the Levi 1"s at Russ' place and they rock! And, they are very capable of being gentle.

I had a blast tinkering and tweaking with them. We slipped in a pair of 2445's and with a little dialing everything we ran through them came through pretty smooth and plenty dynamic!

Loud and clear!

Thanks for the opportunity!

[Akira]

Sorry Widget, I thought you had misread that I had written 2420 for 2402.

I personally love the 2482's, so tight and rich for vocals, and I think that using either a 2420 or 2410, or even a 2470 upgraded with a '20/21 diaphragm, would be much more useable between the '82 and '05, as they would cover a pretty good spectrum (at least 800Hz to ? depending on which .pdf you read), then you could bring in the slot wherever it sounds best. Pro'ly 'round 10KHz

If you like the sound of a phenolic with an extended high end, the original 2470 with 2405 is a perfect match. JBL actually made such a product, the model 4663. A sound reinforcement product, excellent vocal and Marshall guitar reproduction with decent throw...typical product for the time of it's incarnation--early 1980's