All he lacks now, is a pair of 4313B's and the venerable 4345's and he'sOriginally Posted by Miss Orchid
All he lacks now, is a pair of 4313B's and the venerable 4345's and he'sOriginally Posted by Miss Orchid
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"Indeed, not!!"
He???? did i miss the unveiling or something..... :shock:Originally Posted by boputnam
The clue lies in the avatar...Originally Posted by louped garouv
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"Indeed, not!!"
Who got their veil ripped off?Originally Posted by boputnam
they look so real.... and no visible adam's apple.... bummer, had all these bad thoughts...Originally Posted by boputnam
Agreed, you are much better looking.Originally Posted by Miss Orchid
Ah, the importance of context, so often lost on the simple-minded and the naive.Originally Posted by Miss Orchid
Almost anything sounds bright compared to an AR3A, sort of like anyone seems bright compared to an unpopular President or governor. (Except of course, for those who are supporters. ) Better to zing than to whizzle.Originally Posted by Miss Orchid
If not, the invitation is always open here, Miss Orchid. My skill with chop sticks is formidable and correct (see below), and I have zing in more than my tweeters.Originally Posted by Miss Orchid
Out.
Well your entilted to your opinion. Yes you must come over for dinner.Originally Posted by Miss Orchid
As to the other response try and lighten up..it was a joke.
Mrs Lansing
I’d say that looks like a good deal, indeed. Functional speakers discounted for appearance issues only. The mids sound like they belong there. There is no big mystery about removing any of the drivers, unless someone installed them with some form of hardening sealant. That makes things a drag trying to remove the drivers. The reference to the tweeters and care in installing the screws is dealing with the screws that hold the faceplate to the magnet assembly, not those securing the driver to the cabinet.Originally Posted by ironman
The domes on the mids can have an effect on the response. Not sure though that you will notice it now, but not sure that you won’t over time. Right now maybe it is just an appearance preference but the domes can be easily replaced by a JBL tech for not a lot cash. Likewise, the new foam surrounds mounted on the face of the woofer. Some object to the real or potential effect on response (not me). Some object to the aesthetic difference (me), some it just does not matter.
A good starting point with these is to rework the cabinet finish and find a way to scrub the grill cloth, maybe repaint the satin black finish or give it a good cleaning. This will get you immediate “improvement”.
The L112s were a special design for the company. The L166 perhaps started the move away from the legacy sound of the L100 but the L110, L112 etc left the L100 behind by a long shot. Good, solid, low-distortion woofer, proven mid design, and a rugged tweeter that sounds good, takes a lot of power, and looks just right on the black baffle. The crossover design allows for great balance with heft at the low end (can be too much unless the boxes are well away from walls and floor), clear open midrange, and highs that are brilliant without being harsh and overbearing. Compared to soft domes of that era, they will seem to some to be too brilliant. Hell, just turn that little tweeter nob thing down, if you need the sound of the big hall/lost highs. The driver layout is mirrored and flexible in terms of horizontal or vertical positioning.
So clean them up, set them up on stands so you look right at the tweeters, pull them out from the front wall if you can, put your self in the middle, and enjoy.
David F
I just read this post from Ironman, about the day his speakers got delivered to him. I have to say that he has written it in a way that the reader can tell exactly the way he felt that day. And to think I'm going to get to experience the same feeling next week when my 4311's arrive. There's only one difference though. I work night shift and I'll be here all day, on that day to wallow in JBL pleasure. Can't hardly wait!
L112 and 4411 are essentially the same. Differnet crossover network mainly due to driver placement and the need to keep the drivers in band as much as possible for a studio monitor. The 4411 has steep 18db/oct 3rd order networks.Originally Posted by soundmotor
L112 and 4411 are essentially the same. Differnet crossover network mainly due to driver placement and the need to keep the drivers in band as much as possible for a studio monitor. The 4411 has steep 18db/oct 3rd order networks.
Which makes them quite a bit different. Posted previously in this thread -
"David Smith used the 128H and 044 out of the L112 to build the 4411. He had a very nice frequency dividing network design and used the slightly more expensive edgewound ribbon voice coiled LE5-9 instead of the round wire voice coiled LE5-12 from the L112. The sound character of the 4411 was quite a bit different from that of the L112."
The L112 shares the same crossover network design with the L96 and L150A. That design is a modified version of the 4313 crossover network design.
Would it be wrong to fix a 044 KO coil with a 8R 034 JBL repair kit ? Is it physically possible ?
Thanks for helping.
That repair would not work, Sorry.
I'm thinking "shares all the same components" isnt always the whole story. I love my 4410's . Purchased some L80t's. those 2 systems share all the same components (except cab and network), and I dislike the L80t's. Maybe the L80 is too much box for those compts, dunno, but there is a huge difference.
Some kind of happiness is measured out in miles
ok, sorry, im entering another thread.
now:
i own a pair of 441oA and seeing bunches of bunches of monitor-kinda-3way-speakers from jbl...on so many pictures...i got myself confused A LOT.
so thanks miss orchid, and the others, for your posts.
veneration -me too.
but can someone please tell me where the 441oA is in all this play of the 3way?
(because i got an L112 offer lately...)
i would very much appreaciate your knowledge-
thanks,
mikey
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