Need New Receiver or seperates

[ooppalla]

My Yamaha 850 died. So I need a 5.1 or 6.1 Electronics. I have an Old, but runs good Mitsubishi DA150 pwer amp. Would like to upgrade to better electronics, high end receiver or separates. like to keep under 1000 or evern 500... could be used ... but prefer new. HK$? Macintosh????, , , , , etc.???
Need a smart remote that can run my Sony D11, and most other stuff, all remotes lost, save the VCR and DVD, so the remote would need to have the codes for the components
Help,
I am without my JBL 4425s and L7s

All input welcome
Thanks

[porschedpm]

If you're looking for a Home Theater Receiver, you may want to consider the NAD T763 or Denon 3805. Both have about 100w per channel times 7 channels. I've had the older model Denon 3802 and currently own the NAD T763. I prefer the NAD for it's sound and less complicated setup and use. The Market Price for both are in the $1000 range although MSRP's are higher. I also considered the current Harmon Kardon line but didn't like the way the controls felt when I checked them out at the local consumer stereo store. The HK did have the auto-set up feature though that the NAD doesn't. You can save money by buying the used. older models of these on Audiogon or eBay but with Home Theater receivers or pre-pro's, you'll want to buy as current a model as you can afford to take advantage of the recent technologies, especially with regards to the processors (make sure it includes Dolby Prologic2) and D/A converters.

If you're looking to do separates in Home Theater system figure a budget of at least $2500 (example: new-Outlaw Audio 990 pre/pro + used-McIntosh 7106 100w x 6ch amp). One advantage to separates, in addition to better overall sound quality, is that as HT technologies change, you'll only need to change out the pre/pro to keep current.

[Robh3606]

Have you looked at the Outlaw Receiver?? From what I remember it sounded good and was reasonable,

http://outlawaudio.com/index.html



Rob

[ooppalla]

Anyone have experience or knowledge of the Harmon DPR 2005? Close out direct through HK? 900 plus tax/freight figure 1000? Total digital? 120/7

[jblnut]

Anyone have experience or knowledge of the Harmon DPR 2005? Close out direct through HK? 900 plus tax/freight figure 1000? Total digital? 120/7

It looks interesting but I'm somewhat skeptical of the sound quality of the digital amps. This is just me and not based on even hearing the box. I'm looking for a new AV receiver too and I'm torn between Denon and Yamaha. I want something that can also switch and upconvert HDTV, as well as HDMI which will be the future standard. My old HK AVR300 has been a trusty workhorse but I'm not quite sold on the newer HK gear.

Let us know how it works if you go that route...

jblnut

[JuniorJBL]

I can possibly get a good deal(-$$$) on a new denon. PM me with the model#

I'm looking for a new AV receiver too and I'm torn between Denon and Yamaha.



jblnut

[ooppalla]

With my 4425s I am concerned that reciever be smoother in sound as the Biradials are deffinately crisp sounding. This guy likes the Denon over the Nad and Marantz
http://www.graskinhometheatre.bigste...generic93.html
All input welcome
Thanks
Don

[Titanium Dome]

It looks interesting but I'm somewhat skeptical of the sound quality of the digital amps. This is just me and not based on even hearing the box.


jblnut

I know many people have this prejudice, and its genesis is understandable if not logically defensible. I hesitated to get a receiver with a digital amp.

Then, somewhat spontaneously I bought a Panasonic SA-XR10, one of the first with digital amps. It does not have a lot of the I/O features that some folks want/need, but I paired this thing up with some SVA1800s and a Panasonic DVD XP50. The sound is amazing. I have no regrets.

For reference, all my other amps are MOSFET Class H amps which I dearly love, too.

The first SA-XR10 impressed me so much, I bought a second one, this time for four-channel duty. My understanding is that the newer digital amp receivers have many more features than this first generation unit, but I'm happy enough with the SA-XR10s that I'm not really auditioning anything at this time.

[ooppalla]

Receiver update:

Heard lots of good things about the Denon 3805 and when it comes out the 3806 that includes the calibration microphone. The Denon uses the Toroidial power supply.

I called and spoke to HK and asked about the all digital 2005 and compatibility with 4425s and their detail. He advised (name withheld) to go with a toroidial power that is smoother sounding than a transformer power supply. He said that the 7200 and 7300 both have Toroidials ... the newer 7400 out in the winter uses a transformer. Best deal is their auctions through their Ebay store. Both have the calibration mic and lots of features.

[DS-21]

Anyone have experience or knowledge of the Harmon DPR 2005? Close out direct through HK? 900 plus tax/freight figure 1000? Total digital? 120/7

I had two in the course of three days. Both had noise issues, and one had a blown analog input. (Luckily, I bought it locally!) It's also sinfully cheap looking, with that awful plastic volume ring thingy and materials quality redolent of a GM subcompact. Also, it's pretty down on features compared to their regular amp receivers. In all, I think it's a great concept, horrible execution.

While it's only a little less ugly than the HK, there's another digital-amp receiver that I can recommend: the Panasonic XR55. It won my receiver shootout on the basis of sounding at least as good as any other while using a whole lot less energy to do it. None of the receivers I tried had auto-setup features that were of any use, and auto-EQ (didn't try Marantz or Yamaha, only HK and Pioneer) tended to make things worse rather than better. None of the receivers had the one feature - preout/main-in loops to allow the use of external signal processing - that would have led me to rank it over the Panasonic in my comparisons, because they all either sounded the same as it or worse than it. It was the quietest receiver - in terms of noise floor, not output! - that I used. You'll probably want an aftermarket remote with it, because the stock one is not very good.

Besides the remote and some annoyances at initial setup, if you can stand sparing funds for more important things I think you'd be happy with the Panny. Unless you need HDMI switching; then maybe the Panny XR70 would be better, but in gaining HDMI switching you pay about $50 more and lose the XR55's second amp chip (XR70 is 6.1, XR55 is 7.1) and its surround binding posts.

[Hamilton]

I bought this for about $750 this summer and it works great : http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/r...rs/RXV2500.htm

I decided on Yamaha again because my last one was about 20 years old and would not die, even the remote still works!

[Steve]

Aloha Hamilton

Where did you get that great price on the RXV2500

I have an old RV1105 that I am thinking of upgrading...
Either sell it to my Dr. for his "pool room" or put it up on ebay.

Thanks
Steve

[analogbass]

I use 4425s..Try Outlaw or get a used Nakamichi AV-1S, AV-10 or CA-7a/PA-7 preamp/amp; i've bought and returned HKs, NADs, Marantz, Onkyos, etc. Not impressive.

To soften the edges and enhance warmth and musicality, run a tube pre through a Nak or Pass Labs amp.

[Hamilton]

Aloha Hamilton

Where did you get that great price on the RXV2500

Thanks
Steve

Main St. Electronics
2800 N. Main St. #100
Santa Ana, CA 92705
714-835-2133

Tell 'em to match the internet prices. I just looked at my receipt, $725 + tax. I think the guy I bought from was Dennis.

[ooppalla]

Great input folks, Please keep it coming.
I will take a closer look at the separates... But cost isa factor.
Since the Yamaha died, I am running the CD pro-player Sony DPD-D11 directly through a Mitsubishi DA-A15DC and it sounds totally different than with the receiver in-between ... and I ran the Yam with the direct switch on so it bypasses the EQ.
Hummm