what's an everest sound like ..??

[Ian Mackenzie]

Internal mounting tooo.


Best place to hide ecomonic rationalism.


Ian

[Ian Mackenzie]

intrigued by the Horn ..

i'll never get to hear one here in Upstate New York

I heard them at a show,

They throw a big sound and you would need alarge room to take advantage of the horns.

While an interesting system I have heard other local opinions from a forum member that suggest the 4435 and even more so a 4344 sound more accurate. Take that with a grain of salt if you like to enjoy every record you own.

I think the Everest would go well with a nice Cary tube amp and you would get a nice warm engaging system that woud be reasonable tolerant of a source. The compression driver if updated to more recent technology might improve the performance but at the end of the day its a 2 1/2 way.

Sometimes opinions are best left the those who actually intend to buy a product, my opinion isn't really worth a crumpet, there are just too many issues and personal taste to make a statement..."what does it sound like".

Ian

[paragon]

Is the bass driver a modified E 145 ?

Eckhard

[Zilch]

Yup, modified by placing a different foilcal on it.

[paragon]

Please, declare !!

[paragon]

There is nothing changed exept the nameplate on the rear, is it ??

Eckhard

[Zilch]

Mighta been K145 at the time, perhaps, but the Tech Manual calls E145-8 "Exact replacement."

http://manuals.harman.com/JBL/HOM/Te...erest%20ts.pdf

[Mr. Widget]

It was the "E" series.


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[rgrjit8]

I heard them a few years ago. I recall being disappointed by their lack of bass.

The high end was very good, an enveloping picture of sound which both impressed me and caused consternation by having no obvious point source. I suppose this is good but it messed with my head during critical listenig.

Had I wanted the pair I auditioned, it would have cost about 6500 dollars PLUS the cost of a good subwoofer.
On the other hand, a pair of 4344s would have run half that and no subwoofer needed.

Maybe it's sour grapes, but The Everests didn't strike me as a good value soundwise. I also feared that their interesting "sound signature" would become cloying in time.

["Duke" Spinner]

thank you ....

that is Usefull Information..... not drivel as above

i guess i will abandon the idea of a DIY Everest

[Zilch]

... not drivel as above.

I will add "potentially cloying" to the critical listening lexicon here....

[rgrjit8]

Please don't let my opinion influence you. My biggest sticking point was value rather than sound. If you've got a DIY project in mind it may be just the ticket.

You've really got to listen to a pair yourself before you toss the idea.

I met a guy who had a pair and raved about them. He invited me to house for a listen, but it was a helluva commute and I didn't go. This guy was very knowledgable about audio and it's possible that hearing his setup might have turned me around.

The type of music may be a factor too. Most Koreans (where I was at the time) are into classical music. They revel in the pure tones of a cello, for example. Tannoy is big there.
What I auditioned the Everests with was an Eagles CD. It was overstimulating, hearing a jumble of sound coming from an indefinite point. You turn your head a little and the sound seemed to originate from a different part of a huge soundstage.

The Everests have a certain indefinable something, that's almost awesome, but which may, in the long run (no pun intended), be tough to live with. Once again this is all just my cheap bastard opinion.

[Mr. Widget]

Please don't let my opinion influence you.

Always a problem... there is a reason why there are so many flavors out there... one man's expansive sound stage is another man's diffuse confused sound stage. One man's detailed focused sound is another's harsh and overly bright sound...

Unfortunately, we can't all hear all of these systems firsthand ourselves... it's quite a dilemma.

It was overstimulating, hearing a jumble of sound coming from an indefinite point. You turn your head a little and the sound seemed to originate from a different part of a huge soundstage.

Sounds like a pretty accurate description to me... though as seen from the above perspective, it may be exactly what some are looking for.

The Everests have a certain indefinable something, that's almost awesome, but which may, in the long run (no pun intended), be tough to live with.

...again, see above.


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[Bernard Wolf]

I heard them a few years ago. I recall being disappointed by their lack of bass.

The high end was very good, an enveloping picture of sound which both impressed me and caused consternation by having no obvious point source. I suppose this is good but it messed with my head during critical listenig.

I also feared that their interesting "sound signature" would become cloying in time.

Just my 2 cents worth as I have never heard a Everest but I do own what some consider the "baby everest', the S/3100. As far as lack of bass is concerned, yes you might say they lack DEEP bass, especially for their size, however what they do is offer incredibly articulate, tuneful quick well integrated bass with no overhang. Also, again speaking of the 3100 and by implication the Everest, the drivers are very well integrated and offer a seamless presentation.

As for the soundstage being diffuse and having no obvious sound source, I have no notion of where you could have got that impression from. I mean, the whole raison d'etre for the DD horn in both the Everest and 3100 is specific image placement and it does work incredibly well. Soundstage width, depth and imaging is superb. I don't think the off center imaging works as well as advertised, but it does work and I can sit well off axis and still not have the image collapse into the near cabinet and on some recordings you really do get the proper effect. This a all a rather moot point for me though as I do not normally listen that way unless lying on the couch.. and then I am usually snoozing ... but it does work.

One nice benefit of the DD horn though is that the cabs can be placed very close to the sidewalls of a room with little detrimental effect as the music is driven into the center of the room.

All in all Mr. Rgrjt8, with all due respect, I think you might well have benefited from that commute to have a real listen to a properly set up system as I doubt what you heard was correct.

As for Mr. "Duke".. I wouldn't let some of these negative comments above, from those who have had little, or no, real first hand experience with the Everest discourage you that easily.. just look on these pages and you will find others who a quite happy to be "rolling their own"...

Bernard

[Lancer]

As far as lack of bass is concerned, yes you might say they lack DEEP bass, especially for their size, however what they do is offer incredibly articulate, tuneful quick well integrated bass with no overhang. Also, again speaking of the 3100 and by implication the Everest, the drivers are very well integrated and offer a seamless presentation.

Years ago we talked about the newer JBL systems, along with their design goals. The S3100 really is an impressive system. No, it doesn't have the LF response that an old L300/4333 would have for instance, but it beats the L300/4333 in pretty much every other aspect. And it better! The guy who designed both systems is progressing not regressing! The rule of thumb for the newer systems is to apply a few dB of EQ in the VLF for that traditional "North American" type of response.