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    Arrow Classic cars and classy sound

    If this thread takes off, credit 57Belaire for the inspiration.

    Just to set up some framework here: a classic car is any car (or truck) that you've paid off or even that you owned in the past that's special to you. I know this flies in the face of the classic car rags, but this first and foremost is a Lansing Heritage site so the car is ancillary to the discussion. You might say it's a vehicle for the discussion.

    Of course, the sound system has to JBL, stock or (preferably) custom.

    I've got a lot of rides from the past and one from the present that'll fit in this sweeping category.

    Perhaps the first question should be, Is auto sound a part of the Lansing Heritage? Or is it a shameful diversion?

    I know it's a part of the Fosgate Heritage, since Jim Fosgate was one of the first to think about stereo equipment that would run on a 12 volt system.
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    Here you go.....
    For the version in the car...great for drive in's too!

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    Nice!
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    No offense, but I hate car audio stuff, jBL or not on a website for Home and Studio speakers. Just my 2 cents and I hate to offend anyone.

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    No offense taken. This is from the LH home page:

    The quality of his work resulted in the Lansing name being associated with the finest in sound reproduction technology. His name is carried on in the corporate identity of two companies, JBL and Altec Lansing. The purpose of this site is to pay homage to the accomplishments of the man and his namesake companies.
    So while I'll concede that the site so far has focused on home and studio gear, I don't see how it can fulfill its mission without the complete product line represented. After all, the jbl.com Web site is split into three areas: Home Audio, JBL Pro, and Car Audio. In fact car audio is one place where JBL is doing tons of promotional work and reaping many, many awards.

    http://www.jbl.com/car/daytona_spl.asp

    I'm not suggesting Don needs to get on the ball and start putting in all the tech materials for JBL car audio stuff, but I am opening the discussion about the place of JBL car audio on this site. Perhaps, as you suggest, there is none.

    The fact that I routinely take out the audio system in any car or truck that I buy and put in a custom system, including JBL speakers with Ti tweeters, is certainly one motivating factor for me.

    Some of JBL's best industry-leading innovations have come about in the car audio market.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiobeer
    No offense, but I hate car audio stuff, jBL or not on a website for Home and Studio speakers. Just my 2 cents and I hate to offend anyone.
    Hate may be a bit strong, but I must admit I have very little interest in the stuff myself. A pair of A-7s in the back seat... now that is probably a very good application for them. You'd never notice the lack of highs due to the wind noise and I bet that 101dB sensitivity would come in handy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiobeer
    No offense, but I hate car audio stuff, jBL or not on a website for Home and Studio speakers. Just my 2 cents and I hate to offend anyone.

    What an arragont ass. If you don't like it move on. It appears you are in the minority bargain basement breath. What's the matter.....not impressed with your Kraco 8 track Beotch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiobeer
    No offense, but I hate car audio stuff, jBL or not on a website for Home and Studio speakers. Just my 2 cents and I hate to offend anyone.
    Not to be curmudgeony(?), but I'm in that camp too. The car is the last place I want to invest huge $$$ into audio. People steal it, the temperature swings and vibration are hell on electronics and the accoustics and noise levels rule out anything resembling critical listening. Hey I had some Jensen triaxes and a high-power cassete receiver like everyone else back in the day, but I never stepped up with CD, huge amps and a trunk full of subs.

    That said I've heard some really killer systems, but it just never appealed to me personally...

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    It's been apparent for some time that many of the latest JBL pro drivers are "borrowing" from JBL car audio technology.

    LE14H-3's butyl surrounds, dfferential drive, frame construction, others....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zilch
    It's been apparent for some time that many of the latest JBL pro drivers are "borrowing" from JBL car audio technology.

    LE14H-3's butyl surrounds, dfferential drive, frame construction, others....
    I would suggest that the technology borrowed from the pro side for automotive drivers is greater than the reverse and is a major reason for the success of JBL's car audio endeavours. The most significant technology to find its way into JBL's current car audio drivers is the differential drive motor and this most definitely came from the pro side. Doug Button, JBL Pro's Vice President of Research and Development, invented and patented the technology that first appeared in JBL's HLA series of tour sound speakers. Doug's Super Vented Gap motor designs have also found their way into a number of car drivers. While JBL Pro has rebadged 15" GTI drivers as 2256's for one Vertec subwoofer, this was mainly a matter of expediency in that it eliminated the time to develop a dedicated driver. The heavy ferrite motor of that driver is counter to the direction of light neo magnet motors that Pro is standardizing on.
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    O.K., well, "synergism," then.

    [It's ALL good....]

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    Some 20 years ago a friend of mine equipped a small BMW with a pair of 075, and a pair of 375's on the 5038 horn. He used a Cerwin Vega 18" car woofer with a 2 channel coil.


    With a 300watt amplifier he kept blowing the woofer. Didn't take pictures though. Sorry.
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    Here's something I posted last summer about the audio in my T-Bird: http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...ead.php?t=2883

    I also have a Lincoln Mark VIII with factory JBL Premium Audio - it's still the best stock system I've ever heard in a car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yggdrasil
    Some 20 years ago a friend of mine equipped a small BMW with a pair of 075, and a pair of 375's on the 5038 horn. He used a Cerwin Vega 18" car woofer with a 2 channel coil.


    With a 300watt amplifier he kept blowing the woofer. Didn't take pictures though. Sorry.
    Hmmmmmm.......so thats what what's goin' on with some of those Bavarian Paragons.

    Just put some wheels on 'em... slap on a Beemer badge, and you're off an runnin'...but a single CV '18.... not twin 15's?

    I have to admit , I do have a fondness for Cerwin Vega 18's and I'm just trying to imagine the spl in that ride.
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