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    Giskard "former member?"

    WTF is that?
    R Beardsley (BEAR)

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    I sure hope not!!

    He is a VERY VERY valued member here on this fourm. This would be a sad day as anyone here can gain knowledge from this highly knowledgeable and respected fourmite.

    I do hope this is not the case!!
    Shane

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    Giskard is on sabbatical.

    Some feckwit scrapped 185 DX-1's he was trying to give new life here.

    No doubt he is duly bent about it....

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    I guess I missed this one. I have no ideal what happened. I will say this. Giskard has always been a life saver for me on my repairs and restorations. He is a walking encyclopedia on JBLs and thier drivers. He may not have the greatest people skills via the internet......but after dealing with him I would have to say he has a heart ass big as my ASS! What he does for this board couldn't be measured. He has been here as long before I came here. I would have to say he puts in a lot of hours a day where the majotity of us put in a few minutes every now and then. With all the emails and questions he gets and answers I suspect someone tripped his trigger and he's evaluating whether the percieved abuse is worth it. I myself hope he is still contributing!

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    My assumption (or hope) was that this is a joke. Giskard, if you ever want to leave, we need 365 days notice!
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    Hi

    With all the emails and questions he gets and answers I suspect someone tripped his trigger and he's evaluating whether the percieved abuse is worth it.
    I believe that about sums it up / though / I see the abuse as quite real.

    I myself hope he is still contributing!
    I do hope that he is able to think through this / solve the riddles of such immersed involvement / and then re-establish a balance that will work more for his benefit .



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    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K
    ...I see the abuse as quite real.
    Aptly put, Earl.

    Too many come out here with their egos tied to quick acceptance on an Internet forum. When they faced Giskard's dry wit, and pure uncaring when they decide to go a direction not supported by available engineering or ample experience, they lash out at him and challenge his credibility, truthfulness, honesty and person. They bit the hand that would readily feed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boputnam
    Aptly put, Earl.

    Too many come out here with their egos tied to quick acceptance on an Internet forum. When they faced Giskard's dry wit, and pure uncaring when they decide to go a direction not supported by available engineering or ample experience, they lash out at him and challenge his credibility, truthfulness, honesty and person. They bit the hand that would readily feed them.
    Damn..double damn...

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    Let's give him some time...

    I think with time that perhaps this may all blow over. His love of JBL's and his dedication to this "hobby" is unmatched imho (not to take away anything from other dedicated enthusiasts here ). Hopefully with time he'll wander back in and pick up where he left off - educating, helping and even lecturing when necessary.

    You might find the answers here on your own, but without his quickly accessible mental database of all things JBL, we're all poorer as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boputnam
    Aptly put, Earl.

    Too many come out here with their egos tied to quick acceptance on an Internet forum. When they faced Giskard's dry wit, and pure uncaring when they decide to go a direction not supported by available engineering or ample experience, they lash out at him and challenge his credibility, truthfulness, honesty and person. They bit the hand that would readily feed them.

    Members and particularly new members would be unaware and not appreciate Giskard's been in this business a very very long time and he's seen it all.

    He's a technical guy and with that tenure of technical stature he's not in the business of being scrutinized, challenged and at worst having his sincerity undermined particularly in this kind of environment.

    On the other hand technical people tend to understand less of themselves and of the relationships they have with others for their world is what they are. Hence we see these occasional ruptures when the tension between their world and reality bites.

    However over time we all tend to grow and take on a wider appreciation of others and the world we live in.

    I think Giskard will return after a time when he grows bored and his wife tells him he's a pain in the ass.

    Ian

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    This is really sad...

    The man has done so much for this forum and the people here. I was really surprised that he hadn't burned out long ago. Just recently I asked a question about the performance series crossovers and he went above and beyond what I thought he would and he did it for so many. These were not trival answers he gave but took a lot of work and yes, he does have a very, very big heart ( haven't seen your ass yet audiobeer but we'll take your word)

    I don't know what triggered this, but all i can say is it must have been more than just a "bad" experience with a member or a few run-a-way threads lately.

    any time you open yourself up to helping as many people as he did there's always a possiblity of something going wrong. also, I know how hard it is to explain tech stuff to non tech people. drives you crazy.

    I was hoping to help him ( if he needed it) on making his dream of a tech database for the forum a reality. We'll see.....

    Well, tonight I will toast a drink to a very uncommon gentleman who went by the handle of "Giskard". I know he has won my respect and admiration, not only for his brilliant knowlege but for what he gave so many on this forum. We are not likely to see his kind again.

    So Giskard whatever you are..... I wish you the best..even if that means you are no longer on the forum. Hopefully we will all respect his wishes should he need some time off or time to reflect.

    and last.....thank you for all you did.

    ( by the way....who was he?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBLnsince1959
    This is really sad...

    Well, tonight I will toast a drink to a very uncommon gentleman who went by the handle of "Giskard". I know he has won my respect and admiration, not only for his brilliant knowlege but for what he gave so many on this forum. We are not likely to see his kind again.

    So Giskard whatever you are..... I wish you the best..even if that means you are no longer on the forum. Hopefully we will all respect his wishes should he need some time off or time to reflect.

    and last.....thank you for all you did.

    ( by the way....who was he?)
    I will be doing the same, and wish to also express my gratitude to Giskard, amongst others, for making this a place where we could all learn so much...

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    Not earth shattering, JUST FAIR

    Quote Originally Posted by Earl K
    Hi



    I believe that about sums it up / though / I see the abuse as quite real.



    I do hope that he is able to think through this / solve the riddles of such immersed involvement / and then re-establish a balance that will work more for his benefit .


    Abuse!?, come on fellas. I was trying to promote a call for FAIRNESS for BOTH Members. Regis is being made out to be some kind of bad guy, "the cause". I wish both members the best, I think that is clear, BOTH members, not just one. They both deserve understanding. There seems to be a vague and vailed reference to Regis having "attacked" Giskard and I don't like the way that puts all the blame on Regis. Get real, this matter should have stayed in the "private domain"- between the two men. I think it was a bad move to post the personal email on a public forum. That is what started this crap. I know I could handle this with a simple message to another member, like, "Hey, I've been busy and JBL parts are very hit and miss as to their exact delivery date, hang in there, I'll keep you posted, Regards, XXXXXX- EASY!!!!. So that leaves us to try and figure out this mess-by design- not chance. Come on you two, you're both Good Guys , knock it off and shake hands and let's get back to business as usual, okay?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Gonzales
    and let's get back to business as usual, okay?
    IMO, there is no business as usual on here without Giskard. At least, not of the caliber as before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Audiobeer
    I suspect someone tripped his trigger and he's evaluating whether the percieved abuse is worth it.
    Bingo.

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