Who's got Yuri's Amp??

[boputnam]

I will be very honest and I will hurt you, as you deserve it:

Dood, you are way outa line. Knock it off.

You have come back here with an ugly attitude, and your attempt at vengence will only do bad in attempting to promote your amp technology.

Get some respect into your posts. Or simply shut up. Period.

[Ian Mackenzie]

No, I didn't try the amp Yuri.

Something tells me Ian that if I felt like looking anything up or obtaining the proper adapters I would have. I obviously wasn't inclined to do so. It's a real non-issue for me.

I'm perplexed as to why there is more text after the "I have no words..." statement. You've gone on to dramatize the simple fact that -
1. I received an amp.
2. The amp did not integrate into my current environment.
3. I decided to send the amp on to the next person after who that next person was had been established.

I have no idea why you feel so guilty.

But to make you feel better I'm going to do exactly what you did when the P1200 arrived.

First I'll pick up the box and give it a shake to see if it rattles..apparently it rattled or did it? Then I'll have a quick peak inside to see what's in there and close the lid.

Of course I have every intention of connecting up the amp and plugging it into my JBL's to play music.

Ian

[4313B]

I have no idea why you feel so guilty.

That's because you have no idea. Who said I felt guilty? Why would I?

First I'll pick up the box and give it a shake to see if it rattles..apparently it rattled or did it?

Did Rob tell you that? Yeah, it appears he changed out some parts. It was probably solder rattling around.

Feel free to continue harassing me Ian...

[Ian Mackenzie]

Dood, you are way outa line. Knock it off.

You have come back here with an ugly attitude, and your attempt at vengence will only do bad in attempting to promote your amp technology.

Get some respect into your posts. Or simply shut up. Period.

The delivery may not appease but the intent is there.

I think Yuri's frustrated with his expectations of you guys.

He's a specialist and is used to dealing with technical people in specific markets where his product is well understood, not mass market consumers.

Perhaps a but more empathy and a bit less apathy would help both causes.


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As a rule pro touring amps are not as musical as studio amps according at least to my auditioning at Manny's Pro Audio last week. Yuri's amps are studio amps and the better end of that crop according to my sources. The

Asian hifi stuff is totally different and they all have a very distinctive house sound.

[jblnut]

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As a rule pro touring amps are not as musical as studio amps according at least to my auditioning at Manny's Pro Audio last week. Yuri's amps are studio amps and the better end of that crop according to my sources. The

Asian hifi stuff is totally different and they all have a very distinctive house sound.

With that in mind, what I will be comparing next week will be
a Yamaha Pro amp (which I purchased from a studio in Detroit) and Yuri's amp. I would think this to be a fair comparison, the connectivity issue notwithstanding. All I really want to know is, am I fooling myself thinking I got a really killer amp on ebay for $200 ? If Yuri's amp is "all that", then the differernce should be immediately obvious and I will be sure to give gredit where it is due.

So, to round one then - a quick comparison of looks, size and switchgear. I will say up front that I am a little underwhelmed with the action of the switchgear on the PSS amp. The pots are extremely light in their action and - to be honesy - feel a bit fragile. Granted this likely has zero effect on the sound quality but I felt it was worth mentioning given this amp's professional intentions.

A quick picture then of the PSS and my...how was it phrased... " something looking just nice made in China with shiny knobs and plugs!"

In the interest of international peace I will stop there and not directly address some of the more insulting parts of Yuri's diatribe against JBL, asians and who knows what else. God only knows what I did to set this off but I'll keep to the facts from here on out.

All listening test comparisons will be directed to the other thread we have going about the sound of the amp, not it's location.

jblnut

[4313B]

I think Yuri's frustrated with his expectations of you guys.

He's a specialist and is used to dealing with technical people in specific markets where his product is well understood, not mass market consumers.

Whatever...

If this was that important he would have taken care of the whole process from start to finish. I don't think it was Scott's responsibility to create a list and ramrod the endeavor. Here's an example of a list:

1. scott fitlin - NY
2. Robh3606 - NY
3. Giskard - OH
4. mikebake - OH
5. jblnut - NY
6. louped garouv - CO
7. Ken Pachowsky - CA
8. Mr. Widget - CA
9. boputnam - CA
10. John - Manitoba

I know ordered lists are real tough for technical people in specific markets to handle but maybe this example will help. Several people right from the get-go asked to be put on a list. The fact that he isn't used to dealing with mass market consumers is his problem.

[4313B]

With that in mind, what I will be comparing next week will be
a Yamaha Pro amp (which I purchased from a studio in Detroit) and Yuri's amp. I would think this to be a fair comparison, the connectivity issue notwithstanding. All I really want to know is, am I fooling myself thinking I got a really killer amp on ebay for $200 ?

What hook ups does the Yamaha Pro amp allow for?
My Citation 22's were originally set up for bare wire only so I converted them to the same binding posts as found on the 250Ti's.

[jblnut]

What hook ups does the Yamaha Pro amp allow for?
My Citation 22's were originally set up for bare wire only so I converted them to the same binding posts as found on the 250Ti's.

It has 2 1/4" ins per channel as well as both male and female XLR. The speaker outs are binding posts. I'll send some pics if I can get a decent shot of the back...

jblnut

[Robh3606]

That's one nice looking Yamaha amp. Always liked that big black industrial no nonsense look. What's that weigh in at??? Those were the days no fans reminds me of my old Dynaco ST-400. Lots of heat sink.

Rob

[boputnam]

Here's an example of a list:

1. scott fitlin - NY
2. Robh3606 - NY
3. Giskard - OH
4. mikebake - OH
5. jblnut - NY
6. louped garouv - CO
7. Ken Pachowsky - CA
8. Mr. Widget - CA
9. boputnam - CA
10. John - Manitoba

Thanks, Giskard. Fits my memory, too.

However, after the recent unending spate of hateful diatribe from Yuri, I will not be trialing the amp. Please remove me from the list.

I cannot imagine such behavior over the simple unwillingness of people to modify their setups. IMO, much of that unwillingness stems from - and continues to grow out of - this recurring behavior from Yuri. His frustration is NOT warranted, Ian, nor is his reponse. He bears responsibility for the reactions he is engendering.

Me? I'm going back to my (apparently) non-musical, very pricy pro amps with all sorta builtin wizbang connectivity, and not look back. I'm dancing...

[Mr. Widget]

I will take this dance with Bo. Please delete Mr. Widget too.

[Ian Mackenzie]

I just got an email confirming Yuri's permanent departure so this that's the end of that. Now where are my Speakon connectors.......!

Ian

[Alex Lancaster]

Some weeks ago Yuri demanded to "cancel His account"; He never had credit or credibility anyway, but who knows, He might be back like Jack Nicholson (REDRUM).

[jblnut]

That's one nice looking Yamaha amp. Always liked that big black industrial no nonsense look. What's that weigh in at??? Those were the days no fans reminds me of my old Dynaco ST-400. Lots of heat sink.

Rob

Yeah, it's a beast . It's just shy of 60 lbs and it's one of the smaller members of the PC family. The 5002 is about 120 lbs. Nothing fancy - just an enormous transformer, two huge main output caps and about 40lbs of cast aluminum heat sinks. For such a rugged industrial-looking amp, the sonics are staggering. I imagine it's similar to the older Dynacos, Crowns or HK Citations in that regard. Built to last....

Not unlike the Yamaha PX-2 turntable I just got back from the shop yesterday. Another 40lb hunk of aluminum that looks like it should have DeWalt written on it, not Yamaha.
I'll post some pics soon, but I'm having too much fun rediscovering my record collection right now .

jblnut

[boputnam]

I just got an email confirming Yuri's permanent departure so this that's the end of that.

Adios. A difficult business model to say the least.:dont-know

Now where are my Speakon connectors.......!

Ian, I've got all sorta adapters from everything to everything. Being a quasi- roaddog (a fledgling Oldmics), I have to be ready for whatever presents itself at the show - no hiccups allowed If you really are in-need, lemme know if I can help.