rank the 43XX series for me in order of best most accurate sound

[BMWCCA]

Gentlemen, and Gentlewoman, thank you all for the good work you do here. It is not unappreciated.

[DerekTheGreat]

Indeed. Thanks to you guys I've made new friends and fueled my audio & JBL addiction.

[hjames]

Just to clarify. Yes, I have "some" admin privileges, but, for instance, an AK member recently asked me to fix their account here since they could no longer log in. Even tho we can see some of their older posts here, they cannot log in.

I logged in as Admin yesterday, but when I searched they don't seem to be in the current User list here (!), so there is nothing to "fix" so they can log in again. I suspect some of that may be database issues, but I don't know or have access that deep into the workings of the site. I know its vBulletin ver 4.x, but there are some heavy hacks that added in many "side-sites" within the Lansing Forum. Lots of static pages built with MS Frontpage for the historical archives.

I don't have any contacts to the hosting company/folks or server side access like I do for the Wordpress sites I manage for a couple simple non-profits here in Virginia (Our church and another), then again, I don't know the insides of vBulletin 4.x or the XenForo software that AK uses.

Frankly, a migration to XenForo would be the best approach, to get both sites on the same system, but since the Lansing Forum is not working right in the first place, it'll be a huge mess/project. I was not an Mod at AK when they did their software update a few years ago, but it was up and down numerous times over that summer as they fine tuned it and figured out all the add-ins that make a forum manageable.

And yes, I care a lot - I have fond memories of this site and would love to get it back to tiptop shape as a robust resource!

And AK is a handful too - AK's Grumpy is still in recovery from a serious health issue, tho he's doing better now, and I am in contact with Mrs Grumpy ...

Hello Ian

Just to add to Widgets post. Do the Admins care???

Lets see the forum has been broken since before I put up the Library Annex back in 2009 when we could no longer add to the Library.

I stopped adding because I saw it as pointless until it was fixed. Never happened. Beyond my control.

So it's been broken say about the last 15 years, since then we have been slowly loosing more and more over time.

I can't even say how much time Widget spent trying to manage new users before he was no longer able to do so. Beyond his control.

And then we have Heather who I think has Admin privileges but won't even show in here profile who is also committed to try and keep things going.

Over that time we have continued to answer questions and provide help when we could and moderate as time permitted trying to work within the limitations and resources we had available.

If we didn't care do you think we would still be here??? If you are frustrated as a user, with no responsibilities beyond that, how do you think we feel???

Rob

[jpw retired]

Gentlemen, and Gentlewoman, thank you all for the good work you do here. It is not unappreciated.

I ABSOLUTELY ECHO THIS THOUGHT. Imperfect the LH site might be it still is the best source of information there is far and away.

I jokingly refer to myself as Brother Fredo when it comes to my levels of computer skills but I do have some spare time if there is away for me to help.
I should add I know nothing about webpage design or administration so I'm not sure what I could do. John

[hjames]

And in all honesty, the details of running the Lansing site ought to be in a discussion thread with a more limited audience
(like Project May used to be) rather than in a public post like it is now.

... much as I love the big 4-ways discussion.

[Robh3606]

Hello Heather

OK we can keep any future discussion under wraps in the Admin Forum. Just making a point.

Rob

[Ian Mackenzie]

Hey Ian,

Here is an out of the box suggestion. Since this forum is obviously broken and may be irreparable, why don't you start a new JBL or Audio forum? You could post links from here to to get new members, and post links from the new forum to relevant threads or posts here.

You would be doing a lot of people a huge service and you could capture and preserve a lot of this specialized JBL data that is nowhere else. Since you are retired you might have the time required to manage it... and you could certainly get people to help manage the new forum.


Widget

Hi Widget,

Yes that’s a great 👍 idea.

To those interested in the diy situation if you have a suggestion to meet your needs either Pm me or send an email in my signature below.

Ian

[Ian Mackenzie]

Hi Heather and Robert.

I appreciate your posts. It’s not as easy as it sounds. I get it. I do remember meeting Anne and John back in 2004. There was a lot of resourcing behind it. I would probably employ a specialist to set up the frame work.

I don’t want to dive into any details at this point but l think the format will be different as in a far more efficient way of serving an individual’s diy information needs, gaps in understanding and implementation at the diy level.

There are pedestrians and those looking for entertainment too. That can be addressed.

[discus96]

I love the 43xx series.In my opinion the 4355 is the most accurate speaker and the one I like to listen to, more.In the same room I also have the 4345 but in my opinion the bass out of the double 2235H is far better than the one from the 2245H.There is more punch and control.I do have also the 4343 which I prefer to the 4345 as more balanced.Very personal but the 4345 is sub par to 4350/55 and 4343.I also have the 4333 which is a fine speaker but its limit is that is monoamp.

[Ian Mackenzie]

Thank you for sharing. Thats a very nice set up.

[DerekTheGreat]

Indeed. Hot damn.

[rusty jefferson]

Nice collection! Thanks for sharing.

What is that wall covering/paneling in your room? It appears to have perforations in areas? Very attractive surface, is it an acoustic treatment?

[1audiohack]

Hello Discus!

I see that you have both 4350’s and 4355’s. I have 4350’s and have swapped crossovers and components as to make mine 4355’s in 4350 enclosures. I have never had the opportunity to hear both in short periods of time for rapid comparison.

May I ask how you perceive them differently?

Thank you Discus.
Barry.

[Mr. Widget]

I love the collection and am most impressed with your custom rolling stands... very nice solution!

Interesting feedback on the twin 2235 vs the 2245 bottom end comparisons. With your rolling stands you can "easily" move the speakers around for a better comparison. Most of us if we have been lucky enough to hear these systems we have only heard them in different rooms or at different times.

Hell of a collection, I see you have the M2s in your collection... I think you need to add a pair of K2-S9900s and a pair of DD67000s.


Widget

[discus96]

Nice collection! Thanks for sharing. What is that wall covering/paneling in your room? It appears to have perforations in areas? Very attractive surface, is it an acoustic treatment?

Yes the whole room is acustically treated, these are commercial perforated wood panels mounted 8 inc from the concrete walls and attatched to the concrete wall there is also 3 inch acustic wool. some of those panels are perforated and some are not. if all would be perfirated the room would be too sound dead.There are free hanging steel perforated wave panels also on the ceiling.