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    5/8" is the length of the screws.. They are 1/4" diameter, 20 threads to the inch.

    Inquire around over there. Surely you can get them....

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    crossover, srews, horn on driver

    today i got the screws!
    now my crossover is finished!
    and the driver is on the Horn!

    greetings
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    I wish

    I wish I was as hand with the wood working as some of you guys........

    I really need to get a bigger house so that I can have a workshop too.....

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    Looking Good !

    Nice Work Matthias !

    - I think I need a review on how you manufactured the metal throat adapter for the horn / or / did you ever tell us about that process ?

    - Did you have access to an original throat piece , to make up the necessary mold ?

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    sorry but the throat adapter isnt metal! its wood!
    first i sprayed the adapter in black colour - iit looks like metal
    then i remove the black because the lacquer was'nt good!
    i got a better two component lacquer from the german company "Zweihorn"
    but the good quality isnt cheap about 60Euros / 3 Liters (two components)

    Did you have access to an original throat piece , to make up the necessary mold ?

    no! I have'nt access to orginal pieces....unfortunately
    but i hope my horn and throat adapter is good as the orginal

    here you see pictures of the orginal horn throat and mine
    i hope the copy is good...

    i took a wood plate ! to make the adapter
    and a few cm long maple wood 25mm height 25mm width and 12cm long
    after that i took a 1" drill and did a 1" hole into the wood
    i splited the mapple in lenght and width and then i got 4 drilled mapple pieces!
    then i glued this on the plate !
    and here is it
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    Ahhh, Okay !

    - I think you need to measure the performance of that horn at some point .

    - If there are any measurable problems ( not resulting from the crossover ) / then the problem would likely be in this adapter, specifically, from an area very close to the 2426 driver/adapter coupling point.

    - I'll post some pictures of some the typical interior surface transitions that occur within this area in JBL throats. ( Give me some time to charge up the cameras' battery ).




    EDIT :

    - Here are a few shots of the metal throat portion for a 2344 horn .
    - Sorry about the quality of the pics / it's hard to photograph black metal ona cloudy day - indoors .

    - Essentially , here's what happens ; ( I've rotated the two axis , in my description to match what you might need to make ).

    (i) Horizontal Axis / Vertical Side Walls ; from the 2426 to the throats' side walls , is more or less, a straight line .

    (ii) Vertical Axis / Horizontal Top & Bottom Walls ; from the 2426 into the throats' top & bottom walls , looks like a very fast reverse curve of some form of exponential taper.
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    2360 Throat pics

    Hi

    - Here are a few pics of the 2360a throat .

    - This is likely much closer to the type of curve found within the H2600 throat section / because / of more similarity in the depths of the two throat adapters .

    - It's likely hard to see but the tapered curve is a lot more gradual ( not nearly as fast as the 2344 tapered- curve )

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    where did you get this adapters ????
    i thought there is nothing to buy ???

    this ist the same adapter that i need...

    well... ok now my horn with the adapter is finished....

    your adapter looks very good better than mine....
    but i can only hope ...
    ...hmm iam only 21 years old
    i think i can sharp in the horn a lot of time if the sound isnt good...

    greetings
    thank you very much for this pics !

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    where did you get this adapters ????
    - I bought the 2360a adapter on eBay / just to study it / some years back .
    - The 2344 adapter is part of the first generation 2344 horn . Until a few years ago, I believe it showed up as a separate part from JBL Parts, USA .


    i thought there is nothing to buy ???
    - For what you want, there generally isn't from JBL Parts .
    - Did you ask JBL Germany if you could buy the real part ?

    this ist the same adapter that i need...
    - The parts I displayed wouldn't directly fit / or work . The 2360a is for a 2" exit driver and has the wrong dispersion pattern for the horizontal ( once rotated )

    well... ok now my horn with the adapter is finished....
    - Yep, that's the fact .

    - Remember, I've only shown these for reference , if in the future , something doesn't sound right that you think may be adapter related .


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    JBL Germany sold me only 1 new ME120HS woofer for 450Euros
    They said the 2426H driver is not for sale in Germany
    the H2600 and the Adapter too

    therefore i made this all by my self
    two of 2426h drivers i get over ebay from belgium used 150 euros + 50e shipping
    the crossover parts and pcb are about 60 euros
    yesterday i get 5 1/4 -20 used screws in a little company here

    the complete wood material (glue,screws,screeding compound) and so on are about 100euros

    i want a high polish piano lacquer its very expensive ..

    so i did a S2600 for about 900euros by my self
    if i sale the second 2426h on ebay for about 150 euros
    the S2600 will be 1000USd

    its cheaper than the orginal JBL price!
    and if i have luck the sound will be the same
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    ,,, therefore i made this all by my self
    - Yep,, good job !

    if i sale the second 2426h on ebay for about 150 euros
    - Don't you want to eventually make one more S2600 and then have 2 / for stereo playback ?


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    sorry .... my room in parents house isnt big...
    about 20-25mē

    the one side www.asselborn-matthias.de/anl.jpg
    the other side www.asselborn-matthias.de/ls.JPG
    in the edge a bed and a vinyl player
    ther is only space for one S2600
    but later...in my own house or flat
    i will see...

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    now ive only tested the sound of the horn
    with a powerful yamaha p3200 amp
    hmm i dont know...
    i feel its a little bit quietly....
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    Most of the sound will be coming from the bass driver, not the high frequency driver.. when I run just the horn in my 3100 I am always amazed at how litte information there is above 750 hz.. kind of makes one wonder about all this supertweeter to 50,000 Khz talk.

    Bernard

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    you are all right !

    a few minutes ago i've connected the bass driver free air
    and the sound combination woofer and horn was GREAT!!!!

    in this month i've so much to learn for school..
    but in the next time i will finish the box completely!

    greetings and thanks a lot!

    oh has anybody of you a LX800 reflextube?
    because it isnt for sale in German

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