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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    I wish Miss Orchid was still around.......LOL
    I was trying to remember his other alter-ego a couple of days ago. She was certainly the gentlest of his personas.
    Out.

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    Same here. Lancer was one of them.

    The best times were when they were alternating responses in a thread...Lol.

    I think Rob has a soft spot for her too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    Same here. Lancer was one of them.

    The best times were when they were alternating responses in a thread...Lol.

    I think Rob has a soft spot for her too.
    Lancer - wasn't that the G-man of whom you speak?
    Someone asked me the other day if he had died.
    I didn't think so - but I thought he left after Harman forced Greg Timbers into retirement ...
    Something about enjoying time with the grandkiddoes more than the ongoing fights here ...
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    Correct.

    He has a young family.

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    far from dead

    and definitely the most relevant source for all things JBL I have yet to find

    but still things have slowed considerably here, readily witnessed just from a good reading session

    in my opinion that is because of the ever dwindling supply of the raw materials requisite to fueling the hobby, all levels of the hobby, from the guy who just needs to know how to freshen up the cabinets to the massive clean sheet of paper custom build, all of which can be found here

    and THAT is affordable JBLs sourced from yard sales to pawn sops and all points in between

    the good stuff, the stuff that had a replacement cone or diaphram part number associated with it and more time than not a professional counterpart

    nowadays not so much anymore, affordable that is, thanks to the easy access to a huge market for on line selling

    what made it easy and fun is now making it a bit more difficult for the new to the game folks like me

    hobbyists and newcomers

    the same thing that made this great resource possible

    the greatest double-edged sword of all times - the internet

    and then, there's everything else

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    Michael

    You have a good view and perspective as relatively new member.

    In the beginning it was a funnel for gathering information on legacy jbl systems, and components.
    There were only a few dozen members.

    The interest was on who had what and discoveries of how things worked. Product perspectives were written and the Library was developed and kept developing.

    Interest in systems broadened and people like myself started to embrace the more complicated and lesser known systems like the 4343-4344-4345. They gained popularity along with other systems like the L250, the XPL series, the S9500 and others. During this period Jbl still supported recones for numerous drivers.

    LHS member Giskard then started providing back door availability of replacement drivers currently in production. So forum members were spoilt. This continued for a time with SOA Jbl drivers in a quest to clone JBLs SOA systems. Not everyone jumped in to go this way but some people made this their de facto standard. The bubble burst when Jbl restructured and divested into car and lifestyle products and they ceased supply of a number of replacement recones, legacy drivers and soa drivers.

    This isn’t a detailed account of the past decade.

    Giskard then called it a day and around the same time the LHS most loved Jbl legend Greg Timbers was unceremoniously told he no longer had job at Jbl. For some long standing members particularly those who had bought the SOA Jbl drivers it was a turning point. I don’t subscribe to these members moving on as such. There’s just nothing to spark their motivation to publicly post at the moment. But that could change. I also don’t subscribe to the notion that you need new factory stock drivers to be part of the hobby or new soa drivers to be the best of the best. There is a growing movement among Jbl die hard fans to return to the legacy systems now Jbl has pretty much stopped making soa consumer drivers.

    Like a car collector or restoration fanatic this hobby requires patience and perseverance. Networking and knowledge also play a big part.

    Put it this way l have auditioned a bi amped 4331 with original legacy components along side a DD67000 and the 4331 was surprising good sonically driven by premium audiophile equipment. The legacy systems and drivers are still very much revered. So l don’t see interest in Jbl legacy systems fading with those truly interested in the JBL experience. They will look harder and be more resourceful but the prize is still very much out there. You just need to hang out with the right people and want to be in it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    Michael

    You have a good view and perspective as relatively new member.

    In the beginning it was a funnel for gathering information on legacy jbl systems, and components.
    There were only a few dozen members.

    The interest was on who had what and discoveries of how things worked. Product perspectives were written and the Library was developed and kept developing.

    Interest in systems broadened and people like myself started to embrace the more complicated and lesser known systems like the 4343-4344-4345. They gained popularity along with other systems like the L250, the XPL series, the S9500 and others. During this period Jbl still supported recones for numerous drivers.

    LHS member Giskard then started providing back door availability of replacement drivers currently in production. So forum members were spoilt. This continued for a time with SOA Jbl drivers in a quest to clone JBLs SOA systems. Not everyone jumped into go this but some people made this their de facto standard. The bubble burst when Jbl restructured and divested into car and lifestyle products and they ceased supply of a number of replacement recones, legacy drivers and soa drivers.

    This isn’t a detailed account of the past decade.

    Giskard then called it a day and around the same time the LHS most loved Jbl legend Greg Timbers was unceremoniously told he no longer had job at Jbl. For some long standing members particularly those who had bought the SOA Jbl drivers it was a turning point. I don’t subscribe to these members moving on as such. There’s just nothing to spark their motivation to publicly post at the moment. But that could change. I also don’t subscribe to the notion that you need new factory stock drivers to be part of the hobby or new soa drivers to be the best of the best. There is a growing movement among Jbl die hard fans to return to the legacy systems now Jbl has pretty much stopped making soa consumer drivers.

    Like a car collector or restoration fanatic this hobby requires patience and perseverance. Networking and knowledge also play a big part.

    Put it this way l have auditioned a bi amped 4331 with original legacy components along side a DD67000 and the 4331 was surprising good sonically driven by premium audiophile equipment. The legacy systems and drivers are still very much revered. So l don’t see interest in Jbl legacy systems fading with those truly interested in the JBL experience. They will look harder and be more resourceful but the prize is still very much out there. You just need to hang out with the right people and want to be in it.
    thank you for the wonderful post
    best regards
    Michael

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    Forgot what I was gonna say

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