Picking up a pair of what appear to be Big Reds coming out of a local studio tomorrow if the deal doesn't flake. Fingers are crossed. Was not impressed with the last pair I heard, but the deal is too good to pass on.
EDIT: I should have said Super Big Reds!
Nice! Hope the deal works out. 604E based?
I believe so. The "Super" is the addition of the Jensen 15" you see. If they are Super Big Reds, they have the modified Mastering Labs crossovers. But even bi-amped they are well worth the asking price.
The guy who was supposed to get them flaked today, called 2-1/2 hr late, and still wanted them. The seller asked if I was 100% sure that I wanted them and would I go another $100 for the pair? I said yes, and we are on track to pick them up tomorrow.
Even if not my cup of tea, I can't pass these up at $600/pr (was $500/pr).
Let's do a listening party at my house!!! Lot's to see and hear.
Indeed, nice price, regardless. Would be fun to hear them! (as well as your current mains)
Hopefully you get them Todd.
It'll be fun to play around with them.
I only know of a single pair here in the GTA, ( I spent some quality time with them back in the 80's > they were owned by a local production house at the time ).
I went over to get them this morning. We went to a large industrial warehouse where they make aerospace washers and shims. It was raining pretty good!
I asked for the guy, they paged him, and he took me upstairs..., and there they were in all their imposing glory (~20 cu ft each!) There was other stuff..., lots of it! This was a personal studio with the full NEVE mixing board, tons of amps and processors, guitars, basses, speakers, amps, keyboards, Moog Taurus, etc. ,etc., etc.
He said the studio was for their own personnal use and was not commercial! He said the band was Wishbone (not Wishbone Ash), and I think this may be them:
https://youtu.be/ezid1Q_Qz0g
In the other stuff I saw a Marantz DC-170. I have the matching tuner (with the scope) so said I would be interested. He is supposed to send me a listing of what he has.
At this point it was raining like a MOFO. These things were huge (would probably fit one at a time but...) so I asked if he could deliver them for $60 when the weather clears. He said if he can schedule the truck this will happen, probably this weekend. No money has changed hands, but we have a verbal and handshake.
The cabinets were set up for tri-amping, but passive crossovers are also included as are all the cables and banana plugs. They look like the Mastering Labs crossovers, but did not say Mastering Labs on them. I thought they may have had a vinyl covering on the cabinets, but my friend said they looked like solid wood. They do have black grills (5' tall x 2' wide). Hey for $660 delivered (assuming it happens), I can't complain.
He sent me the list of other stuff he has and asked for directions for delivery. If anyone wants any of this (Marantz(#49) is spoken for), let me know and I'll get a price. If you are local, you can handle it yourself.
- [ ] 1: HALFER - DH 200 power amp
- [ ] 2: JBL - SR 6615 power amp
- [ ] 3: Fender - 2235 power amp
- [ ] 4: Samson - SERVO - 240 stereo amp
- [ ] 5: TDM - model 24-CX-4 2 way stereo quad
- [ ] 6: QSC -mid amp
- [ ] 7: QSC - mid amp
- [ ] 8: NEOTEK - Power supply
- [x] 9: LEXICON - 224x Digital reverb
- [ ] 10: QSC RMX 2450 power amp
- [x] 11: EQUI=TECH - power amp
- [ ] 12: CREST - P-3500 Power amp
- [ ] 13: FURMAN - PL Plus power conditioner
- [ ] 14: FURMAN - PL Plus power conditioner
- [ ] 15: AKAI - rhythm machine MPC 3000
- [ ] 16: FURMAN - PL Plus power conditioner
- [ ] 17: FURMAN - PL Plus power conditioner
- [ ] 18:ANTARES - ATR-1 auto tune intonation processor
- [ ] 19: BERRINGER - multi-gate pro
XR4400
- [x] 20:UREI - LA-22 Compressor
- [ ] 21: BBE - Sonic maximizer -822A
- [ ] 22: Yamaha - XPX 90 II
- [x] 23: LEXICON - PCM 70 Digital effects processor
- [ ] 24: Symetrix - expander/gate DUCKER 522
- [ ] 25: RANE - HC6 headphone console
- [x] 26: UREI - LA-4 Compressor/limiter
- [x] 27: UREI - peak limiter 1176 LN
- [ ] 28: DBX - 160X Compressor/limiter
- [ ] 29: DBX - 160 XT Compressor/limiter
- [ ] 30: DBX- PROJECT 1 Compressor/gate 266
- [ ] 31: DBX- 166 gain reduction compressor
- [ ] 32: LAYLA - event echo
- [ ] 33: ROLAND - SUPER JV 64 voice synthesizer module
- [ ] 34: Sennheiser - stereo transmitter
- [ ] 35: Sennheiser - true diversity receiver
- [ ] 36: MIDI K.I.T.I. - KAT intelligent trigger
- [ ] 37: COAXIAL loudspeaker crossover
- [ ] 38: ALEXSIS - ADAT TYPE II
38A - ALEXSIS - controller
- [ ] 39: ALEXSIS- ADAT TYPE II
- [ ] 40: WIREMOLD - plug-In outlet center 6 plug
- [ ] 41: TEAC- AG 43020 audio/video surround receiver
- [ ] 42: SANYO - stereo cassette deck
- [ ] 43: E MAGIC - UNITOR 8 patch bay
- [ ] 44: DOD - R-231 graphic equalizer
- [ ] 45: SCAMP - AUDIO & DESIGN RECORDING- eight F 300 Rack mount expander gates
- [ ] 46: SCAMP - Rack power supply with two DE-ESS Equalizers
- [ ] 47: WIREMOLD - plug-In outlet center 6 plug
- [ ] 48: WIREMOLD - plug-In outlet center 6 plug
- [ ] 49: MARANTZ - 170 DC rack mount powers stereo amp
- [ ] 50: RUSSOUND - 55-6 speaker patch-bay
- [ ] 51: high frequency equalizer network 16 ohms
- [ ] 52: High frequency equalizer network 16 ohms
- [ ] 53: ALTEC 9440A 800 WATT AMP
- [ ] 54: NSI NDR 8000 programmable dimmer pack
- [ ] 55: CREST - 3501 Power amp
- [ ] 56: FURMAN - PB-40 20 channel patch bay
- [ ] 57: SAMSON - SR22 wireless rack-mount
- [ ] 58: ALEXIS - QUADRAVERB
- [ ] 59: SAMSON- SUPER ID RX-39
- [ ] 60: MU-TRON BI-PHASE
- [ ] 61: Sennheiser - EW 100 True diversity receiver
- [ ] 62: SHURE - L4 wireless receiver
Yeah they're BIG!!! I gave the guy $100 for the delivery (rather than $60). He had to "borrow" one of the workers and company truck and the boss wasn't all too happy about it. These had to come down from a second story loft by forklift.
Looking at the "crossovers" they seem a bit of a mystery. They have an input and a high frequency output, and level controls for mids and highs as well as an HF contour switch, but no place to connect the lower frequencies. I assume/hope when I open one, it will become clear. I typically see these mounted to the cabinet so maybe the connections are internal. Does anyone have any experience with these?
The speakers were mounted in recesses and the grills fit the recesses, not the speakers. They would need to be cut down.
In 1979 I bought a Marantz tuner for a friend who had one of their integrateds. He paid me back at the time and last year asked if I wanted the tuner back. He gave the rest (including JBL L100s he bought at my suggestion at the time) to his gardner. I said send it to me and I'll pay the shipping. It is their high end tuner with the internal O-scope. This is the matching amp. Now I just need the preamp.
Awesome! Now get that darn plastic off of them and let's see them!
Luvin the big sky-scope!
What is it?
Todd,
Most likely the system is designed to be biamped with the HF amp feeding what's seen in the pic ( for tonal shaping ).
FWIW, I do the exact same thing.
Why would there be both a mid an high L-pad if this is just to "shape the highs? Do they mean the lower (mid) and upper (high) portion of the "shaped" high frequency going to the horn? Guess that makes sense. Then this would be after the HF portion of a biamp set-up and would not be fed from the mains?Originally Posted by Earl K
Todd,
Most likely the system is designed to be biamped with the HF amp feeding what's seen in the pic ( for tonal shaping ).
FWIW, I do the exact same thing.
Vintage 8-1/4" Criterion Schmidt Cassigrain.Luvin the big sky-scope!
What is it?
I assume that you are using an electronic crossover. What crossover frequency are you using (1,500 Hz?). Do your speakers include the auxiliary Jensens and if so, where do you cross these over?
Todd,
Most likely the system is designed to be biamped with the HF amp feeding what's seen in the pic ( for tonal shaping ).
FWIW, I do the exact same thing.
I had only seen these using the Mastering Labs passive networks.
Thanks
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