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    Senior Member Ed Zeppeli's Avatar
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    I like that the 1200fe is seeing new light.

    ...and I hope that means they will become more available as a stand-alone piece.


    Thanks for the photos.

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    I wonder if Bo has a pair on order?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Zeppeli View Post
    I like that the 1200fe is seeing new light.
    That woofer appears to be an evolution of the 1200Fe
    Based on the same size "1200 FE series unit" used for studio monitors "4428", "4429", and "4312 SE" etc., the newly developed Woofer unit for the 300 mm bass range "JW 300 PW - 8" Things aimed at. Review and optimize each component of the magnetic circuit to improve efficiency, reduce induced inductance and improve nonlinearity of operation. JBL proprietary SFG Magnetic Circuit Short Ring is also optimized using the latest analytical techniques to form a stricter target magnetic field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pos View Post
    That woofer has me curious! I would love to see the EDS...
    Not all of the files, hopefully the pertinent.
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    Thank you but that is not a 1200Fe, but a JW 300 PW - 8

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    I'm wondering about the value for money offered by the L100 reissue.

    For example you can have a pair of these for $3200 ish

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    Thats http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/p...p#.W8z-OBFRdxA which btw has a DSP amp thingy in the back

    That leaves you $800 to pay a wood guy to pop some veneer on them for high WAF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macaroonie View Post
    I'm wondering about the value for money offered by the L100 reissue.
    I was thinking the same thing Mac ... on my own (having never heard the L100-2's) , for that much $$'s..think I could do as good if not better , BUT

    nostalgia ain't cheap
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    Quote Originally Posted by macaroonie View Post
    I'm wondering about the value for money offered by the L100 reissue.

    For example you can have a pair of these for $3200 ish

    Thats http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/p...p#.W8z-OBFRdxA which btw has a DSP amp thingy in the back

    That leaves you $800 to pay a wood guy to pop some veneer on them for high WAF.
    I don’t think that’s the point.

    I know I’d rather have the possibly over priced speakers in my living room.


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    Tom , you got it in one. If they can make the SRX835 with loads of tech in it and have it on the market for $3200 then the relatively simple L100 reissue should be at most the same price. With modern manufacturing methods on all the bits and bobs
    that should be eminently achievable , with plenty of gravy too.
    Marketing has placed these well past the knee of the price elasticity curve hoping that , as Tom posits , nostalgia will seal the deal.
    Lets see what we can get away with fella's. Classic Harman strategy , the price will be lower by a good deal in a year or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macaroonie View Post
    I'm wondering about the value for money offered by the L100 reissue.

    For example you can have a pair of these for $3200 ish

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    Thats http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/p...p#.W8z-OBFRdxA which btw has a DSP amp thingy in the back

    That leaves you $800 to pay a wood guy to pop some veneer on them for high WAF.
    Could this one be moved in the house and for HiFi usage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2440 View Post
    From the Absolute Sound, where JBL is seldom seen, or heard: (http://www.theabsolutesound.com/arti...ers-under-20k/)This speaker is a big improvement over the iconic L100 with better imaging and bass articulation and extension.
    I keep reading abt how a narrow baffle improves imaging ?

    BUT here is a new/old L100 with the much the same cabinet that was designed in 1971 ?

    14.5 inches wide.

    oh, and JBL says it's 4 Ohms

    https://www.jblsynthesis.com/product...0-classic.html
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    This is a fantastic marketing idea on JBL's part and I love what I'm seeing. I still have four L100s I bought new in the early '70s and they're all in excellent shape (with new Quadrex grilles); maybe I'll finally have a sale and make room for a pair of the new Classics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    I keep reading abt how a narrow baffle improves imaging ?

    BUT here is a new/old L100 with the much the same cabinet that was designed in 1971 ?

    14.5 inches wide.

    oh, and JBL says it's 4 Ohms

    https://www.jblsynthesis.com/product...0-classic.html
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BrTQiGiN-ro
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SDIeKwB7RS0

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2440 View Post
    From the Absolute Sound, ...
    This speaker is a big improvement over the iconic L100 with better imaging and bass articulation and extension. It has lots of presence and punch, and it seems like a great party speaker.....
    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    I keep reading abt how a narrow baffle improves imaging ?

    BUT here is a new/old L100 with the much the same cabinet that was designed in 1971 ?

    14.5 inches wide.....
    Seawolf, the comparison here related to image quality is between the new L-100 and the old model.

    As mentioned in the imaging thread recently many things can effect imaging including the baffle width/shape. As described in the YouTube videos Ian linked, the new driver alignment and better quality crossovers are also important factors. Another likely factor is more closely matched dispersion at the crossover points. The old L-100 crossed at about 1500hz and 6khz. The new L-100 is crossed at 450hz and 3.5khz. Those lower points should be significantly reducing beaming from the woofer and midrange. Beaming can hurt image quality by reducing the off axis response. Good off axis response is another factor that improves imaging. (Your Ohm/Walsh speakers being omnidirectional have great off axis response and is the reason they image so well, acknowledging they have other faults.)

    I don't doubt the new L-100 images much better than the older version.

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    If you listen to the You tube interviews JBLs intentions are clear.

    From the product perspective it was an opportunity to justify making the L100 a bit better but otherwise it’s a rerelease of the L100. It’s not a new design or product line like the Array Series that are known for imaging capabilities. They stretched the enclosure a bit for the vertical driver alignment but kept the proportions. That allowed beefing up the bass a bit making it a great party loudspeaker at home. The tweeter and mid range drivers are a bit better and it has a better crossover network. But otherwise it’s a freshen up and rerelease of a very successful loudspeaker.

    l think what is interesting is they got somebody with industry experience from outside JBL to get the new offer to market but who also had prior exposure and familiarity with JBLs legacy lines like the 4313 and 4312. That all makes sense and l hope it all goes well for them.

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