Recommendations for 3 way JBL studio monitors with 12” woofers please

[SteveJewels]

So it looks as though I will be in Rockford for a while, long enough to resume my speaker project. It will be a few months, probably Thanksgiving until I can get the stuff out of storage so I am thinking to get a pair of speakers to have in the mean time and while I am working on my project.


I am looking for recommendations for 3 way JBL Studio Monitors with a 12” woofer. I am not familiar with the JBL Studio Monitor lines so some recommendations would be greatly appreciated, especially if you could give the basis for your recommendation.

The considerations are;
Sound quality. I’m looking for reference quality so that I have a starting point for the speakers I will build
Price Up to $1,200
Value (sound quality/price)
Resaleability, I would most likely resell them once I have completed my speaker project.


It would be a big plus if they were somewhere close enough to Rockford that I could see and hear them and pick them up rather than ship them. That being said I can be somewhat flexible as to condition if they are priced right and are one of the better examples of 3 way JBL Studio Monitors with a 12” woofer. To give an example of flexibility, there is a pair of 4312’s nearby. If they are among the better examples of SQ I would consider them at a little better price. http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/el...677438929.html


I guess the first thing to establish is what 3 way JBL Studio Monitors with a 12” woofer were made and then rank them as to SQ. Once I have that list I can see what the going rate is for them and determine relative value. Then I can look seriously.

[SEAWOLF97]

It would be a big plus if they were somewhere close enough to Rockford that I could see and hear them and pick them up rather than ship them. That being said I can be somewhat flexible as to condition if they are priced right and are one of the better examples of 3 way JBL Studio Monitors with a 12” woofer. To give an example of flexibility, there is a pair of 4312’s nearby. If they are among the better examples of SQ I would consider them at a little better price. http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/el...677438929.html

from another thread: bur similar theme.

Just my $.02

Have owned L65, L80t (not t3) , 4412 , and MANY others.

The L65 seemed to live up to the "sizzle & boom" rep (did not seem "musical")
L80 was NOT impressive (despite having abt same drivers as 4410, that I did like)
4412 was pretty good , but designed as a horizontal speaker

I did a comparo and slightly preferred the L166 to the 4412, Also MUCH
favored the 120Ti over all of them.

HAD 4310b (not bad) and 4312 (DidNotLike-sounded dead)

Whatever you decide, AVOID the L56

all run with same amp/sources etc.

[brutal]

While I'm nowhere near the expert or aficionado of the greater membership here, I'm very impressed with the 4312BMKII.

Compared to 120Ti, L112, 4412, or any older paper cone tweeter studio monitor, they're amazingly accurate. 4412's are a contender, but are horizontal. Comparing side by side, the 4412's 128H LF driver bests the 2213H in the 4312 by a bit if you're an LF nut.

If you plan to use a sub, I'd consider looking for a pair of 4410A, great 10" studio monitor IMHO, just meant for smaller spaces or with a sub. Amazing imaging.

[macaroonie]

L96 / 4313 120ti L112

[BMWCCA]

L96 and 4313 are both 10-inch.

4412, 4412A, and L112 were all designed for horizontal near-field use but I've used them vertically as room speakers for over 35-years with no complaints. 4410 and L96 are both excellent 3-ways but with 10-inch woofers. Contrary to popular opinion, neither the L96 or 4410 are really much, if any, smaller than their 12-inch siblings. Go ahead and compare the dimensions of the 4410A and 4412A here in the JBL brochure. Any of those mentioned will have excellent resale value

What kind of listening will you be doing? What kind of room? How far from the speakers? If you really want a 12-inch, then don't worry about their intended orientation unless you'll have them right in front of your face. And even then . . .

If you compare the 4410/A and L96 to their 12-inch siblings, you may not miss the extra woofer size. If you really want "monitors", I'd suggest the LSR305 powered monitors for your temporary setup. At $200, new, per pair—or a bit more for the Mk-II version—you might just find they'll do everything you want and you won't even need your amps. And you won't worry about resale because you'll never want to sell them!

[macaroonie]

[QUOTE=BMWCCA;416958]L96 and 4313 are both 10-inch.

I know that and you should know that I do. However they punch above their weight and thats why I included them.

[BMWCCA]

[QUOTE=macaroonie;416959]

L96 and 4313 are both 10-inch.

I know that and you should know that I do. However they punch above their weight and thats why I included them.

Maybe you pay for your Internet use by the word?
Otherwise you might have included that information in your earlier post. Or are you intentionally trying to confuse those searching the thread title in years to come?

[Kalle]

LSR32 https://www.jblpro.com/pages/recording/lsr32.htm
LSR6332 http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/r...2#.W4V9Y-gzaUk

Same speaker. Sounds great.

//Kalle

[SteveJewels]

Is there a list of JBL 43XX and 44XX speakers? I found a list for home speakers but not monitors.

I could winnow it down to those with 12" woofers.

[SteveJewels]

The list is, I believe, all JBL vintage monitors. I looked each of them or at least the famial and annotated the number of freq ranges and that size of the woofer(s).

Please help me by rating the best examples with respect to SQ for the ones that have a 12" woofer.

4200 Series		2 way 6" and 2 way 8"
4301		2 way 8"
4301B		2 way 8"
4301BE		2 way 8"
4311		3 way 12"
4311B		3 way 12"
4312A		3 way 12"
4313B		3 way 10"			Aquaplas?
4315		4 way 12"
4315B		4 way 12"
4320		3 way 15"
4331A and 4333A		2 way and 3 way 15"
4331B and 4341		2 way and 3 way 15"
4343B		4 way 15"
4345		4 way 18"
4350B		4 way, 2 - 15"
4355		4 way, 2 - 15"
4401		2 way 6 1/2"
4406		2 way 6 1/2"
4408		2 way 8"
4408AL-1
4410AR-1
4410		3 way 10"			vert line array
4410AL-1
4410AR-1
4411		3 way 12"
4412		3 way 12"
4412AL-1
4412AR-1
4425		2 way 12"
4430		2 way 15"			2235H
4435		2 way, 15" X 2

[BMWCCA]

.

[Ian Mackenzie]

Hi Steve,

If you are open to looking outside the square l recommend you audition the new 708 series

Yes it’s an 8 inch loudspeaker BUT but they have jbls latest trickle down technology from the M2. So you have a current reference, they can be bought on Ebay or via an online dealer

According to the specs they extend into the 30-40 hertz range which is all you will get with the 4312 style systems

I imagine they could be sold quickly.

The only 12 inch 3 way contender l consider a reference is the LSR6332 but they are outside your budget


http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/r...i#.W4Yd76R_WEc

[BMWCCA]

If you are open to looking outside the square l recommend you audition the new 708 series

Yes it’s an 8 inch loudspeaker BUT but they have jbls latest trickle down technology from the M2. So you have a current reference, they can be bought on Ebay or via an online dealer

Wow, like the little LSR305s, but all grown-up. That's a pile of technology right there!

[SEAWOLF97]

[QUOTE=BMWCCA;416960]

Maybe you pay for your Internet use by the word?
Otherwise you might have included that information in your earlier post. Or are you intentionally trying to confuse those searching the thread title in years to come?

Phil; Lindsay is an experienced, helpful , longtime member here ....why do you
pull your shtick on him

[johnlcnm]

Steve. You forgot the LSR32's. Now the LSR6332. I think it is still in production. If you want detail, accuracy, and a load of dynamic range these have it in spades. In the past I have seen the old version, the LSR32 for under a thou. Of course all JBLs have been increasing in value over the last two years. Some by a major amount. I'm going to call it: the LSR32 with its carbon fiber fronts are Vintage!