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    RE Post # 60

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    Really. That's going to get you a long way around here buster.

    BTW Craig from Solen wrote back concerning your waffling rant over the irrelevance of experience.(see quote below)

    Talking about or retelling a conversation over 15 years ago or a 25+ year old paper by an academic doesn’t hold much weight around here. The thing to remember is next time when you feel so down and underwhelmed about what or who to sway your response with think of something current!. Go outside, breathe and be present. On that point it appears your only experience/exposure/understanding with JBL is to post regurgitating text references you have read on this or other audio forums or old AES papers, condescending emoticons, and quoting people like D.B Keele endlessly. Which by my interpretation means your understanding of JBL ends with an online bass reflex simulator program and uneducated guesses. >Go spend a month reading the JBL Library and stop giving people the shits. You might then be better placed to enter forum discussions and make a positive contribution.

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    “Dear Sir,

    Thank you for putting this to our attention.

    The story this guy is talking about took place more then 15 years ago with the older owner who past way 5 years ago.

    Most of it is right however the supposed "basement musician reconning specialist” is actually a well know Montreal speaker and amplifier repair shop, who does a very good job of reconning and reforming speakers with original parts on request.

    https://lmoel.wordpress.com/category/coordonnees/

    He as surpassed quality of work from other well know authorized repair shops in the Montreal and Toronto area. Will not name those however…”

    I do hope this puts as much a smile on your face as it did mine.

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    Jeez come on guys.

    Sadly the Lansing Heritage forum is widely considered to be anywhere from xenophobic to outright hostile, and for good reason. Do they now get to add childish to psychotic to our characteristics as well?

    This thread should still be only in its second page.

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    Hi Barry,

    I fully agree with you that "This thread should still be only in its second page."

    Richard

    EDIT: Aug. 23rd, 23:55

    Since I've fully agreed with you that thread should still be only in its second page, logically I will abstain for the time being adding more pages to it of documents showing date of discussion a couple of years ago, in absence of a Craig, as this would likely get the issue going again.

    As for "however the supposed "basement musician reconning specialist”, must say that somewhat degrading description of this mostly self-made man isn't in my posts, instead (#33) "For refoam/recones, a one-man show shop,", hence the "is actually a well know Montreal speaker and amplifier repair shop," Having read a couple of years ago an interview re his story, day after reference, its fascinating (e.g. care for his $ guitars!!)

    That his reputation of the nicest quality work includes "and Toronto area" is something to be proud of for a self-made person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post
    Jeez come on guys.

    Sadly the Lansing Heritage forum is widely considered to be anywhere from xenophobic to outright hostile, and for good reason. Do they now get to add childish to psychotic to our characteristics as well?

    This thread should still be only in its second page.

    Barry.
    +1 ... boy do I agree with you Barry , childish talk of "evil" , aren't we adults ? How does this look to guests/newbys ? Living up to our LANSING HIGH SCHOOL rep again.

    this is a hobby forum, no "life or death" issues here. I alerted the mods this AM, but .....
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    Quote Originally Posted by SEAWOLF97 View Post
    +1 ... boy do I agree with you Barry , childish talk of "evil" , aren't we adults ? How does this look to guests/newbys ? Living up to our LANSING HIGH SCHOOL rep again.

    this is a hobby forum, no "life or death" issues here. I alerted the mods this AM, but .....
    Well the place has definitely taken a turn for the worse though to be fair singling out the 'evil' comment ignores a shed load of personal ad hom garbage that has gone before it. I decided long ago not to engage and to leave the poster in his own echo chamber. It should have been moderated months ago.
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    I certainly didn’t start this particular issue and we are looking at it closely

    Statistically the pattern is quite familiar.

    Btw the OP has sought advice from me for the past week on the purchase

    Go figure

    Anyway get a life.

    There is nothing to be gained by pickover this without a solution

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    Hi. I have seen this publication recently ... in Spain there is very little or nothing of the 43 series ... although there are some 4315.
    I think that ad is false and more with that price ..

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    I understand that the 4344 is the further development of 4343. However, can somebody tell me something about the sonic differences? Is the 4344 the more desirable product of the 434X-line, also in regard to the spare parts situation?

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    Awesome be the mighty forty-three forty-three

    All I can say about the 4343's is that of many, many, many great and not so great loudspeakers I heard since around 1957, the JBL 4343 is the best speakers I have heard when used in a very good room environment and with top notch electronics.

    If I had the space available and fiscal wherewithal I would have three completely refurbished JBL 4343's and use them in a system with my Spread Spectrum Technologies Trinaural Processor.

    Two LSR-32's in the rear of the space in a Dynaquad configuration, having its own two channel amplifier.

    Do it! You will not regret the choice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robh3606 View Post
    You need to actually see these speakers in person and audition them. Look for warn/damaged screws on all drivers. You can tell if they have been molested. Look for water damage to the cabinets rusted screws around the crossover panel might not meen anything but definately make sure the cabinets are in good condition.The foamed drivers have had their foam replaced. As long as it was only a refoam and the cones are original it might be just fine. Whoever did them was sloppy. Could just be cosmetic. Recones for 2231's do not exist you would end up with 2235's The 2121's are rare and no recone kits exist unless you get very lucky. With their age and depending upon use you may be looking at changing the 2420 and 2405 diaphrams if they already have not been. If they have been changed you want original JBL parts not aftermarket! Good luck!

    Rob
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