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    Sea,

    Since you have a history of stashing treasures in the house, i wouldn't mind having a peek at the connector box you have somewhere. Could be some nice stuff to see in there. No obligation, feel free to say no. Just curious.

    Widget,

    Thanks for the input. In spite of that i still like Switchcraft, they have some quality connectors, manufacture in the US, have a huge selection of connectors and adaptors, covering almost any situation, not really matched elsewhere. Hopefully they won't end up pricing themselves out of the market (or may become a niche mfr?). That would mean about Neutrik, Senior, Amphenol? and China left. And Neutrik has already started cutting cost with quality going down a little...

    Richard

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    Neutrik's well-known NC3FX Female XLR connector of more recent construction. Right there near the top can see the O ring has been changed for a grey one, previously was black. Not just a matter of color, also cheaper. If you look at the previously posted pic in # 295 (Aphex interfaces cables made), using some of the Swiss made connectors on-hand, the XLR O rings are black.

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    In addition to the O ring, the soldering cup terminal (2nd part) was also changed from round to squareish and the metal color isn't as shiny silverish as in the past. Looking at the other end of that part, where the three male pins go in, it use to be almost 360° full metal inside for increased contact. Not anymore. Think of tiny prison bars where you have a metal bar/strip then free space, again metal bar/strip followed by small space, and so on all around. So less metal used for contact inside each pin hole. Material cost i guess. The cable retainer (3rd part) is the newer model, and not as robust for sure as it used to be. Therefore four more cost reduction small modifications...

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    The other well-known NC3MX male XLR connector of more recent times. Note on the 3rd part shown the silver soldering cup terminal and to some degree on the three pins. This is typical older style. But Neutrik has changed such thing on recent XLRF. Then i assume the XLRM might be the next one in line for a cost reduction "remodeling". The cable retainer (4th part), same as dealer gave me to replace a lost one, is also the recent model with weaker plastic.

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    I made sort of a global recap picture, it should follow soon, showing the changes between older and newer Neutriks, for their long standing and most popular models i guess: NC3FX (XLR female); NC3MX (XLR male); NP3C (1/4"TRS). The NP3X 1/4"TRS is excluded since its already been shown/compared with the NP3C, plus the former has limited barrel space re cable size.

    Connectors are a details business in my view, and these add-up, plus details matter for long-term connection reliability, specially when systems are subject to setup and tear down a number of times.

    Richard

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    These are the connector changes recap pictures mentioned in the previous post. Two pics are identical, except for where i've drawn lines to point where modifications were made. Third pic is simply taken from a different angle that some folks may prefer. Note the first pic is clear enough to be enlarged a few times (i tested it), in order to have a closer look at the differences, after saving it to hard disk.

    The left column is Swiss made connectors all the way down, and the right column is newer Liechtenstein made equivalent parts. 4 parts per connector, each time in the same order from top to bottom. That makes it easier to compare two generations of the same connectors, also gives members a more global view.

    At far right the packaging with model number is used for connector identification purpose right next to the one involved. There's a number of parts there making it preferrable to know which one belongs where.

    Note the change mentioned in previous post re inside the female XLR where the male pins go in is not show here, could not picture that with the small cam i have, but i sure see that change with my eyes and a good light.

    The vertically drawn line in the right column is to indicate the change made on the female XLR soldering terminal has not been carried out YET on the male XLR soldering terminal a little below. Hence a difference between these two connectors. But i wouldn't be surprised the same mod makes its way to the male XLR in the near future. More to come.

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