Hype or masterpiece?

[Fritz The Cat]

Roy Harper & Jimmy Page: "Whatever happened to Jugula": hype or masterpiece?
Anybody has similar doubts for debatable rock music works?

[Fritz The Cat]

When doves cry baby I'm a star.....
Look at the remark by Prince himself in the book "1001 Alben, die sie hören sollten, bevor das Leben vorbei ist", Seite 520.

[Fritz The Cat]

Produced by Trevor Horn. Photograpy Gered Mankowitz. A megaseller in 1982. Bombast pop for the Star Wars generation?
Masterpiece or hype?

[Fritz The Cat]

This one is definitively not a masterpiece. Interesting because of the Boogie Woogie piano by Nicky Hopkins and the guitar by Ry Cooder. Parts of "The Boudoir stomp" later were used for "Midnight Rambler". Hey, this one reached No 33 on the US charts!! A meaningless waste of vinyl material...

[SEAWOLF97]

A meaningless waste of vinyl material...

sorry, I DON'T agree . Rather like "It Hurts Me Too"

[Fritz The Cat]

Too much synthesizers, drum computers and keyboard horn fills. Definitively a typical wayward child of the eighties. Every track has the same rhythm pattern. Trouble man - trouble music. Masterpiece (as judged in 1982) or hype? Mastered at Allen Zentz, LA: "Vanz kant danz" (cit.: John Fogerty)

[Fritz The Cat]

Should we play this one loud or not? (as recommended on label?)
When i bought this one in 1979 i was shocked. Too much rawness an weird sounds for my favorite sort of party music. The songs were made for a future generation.
Also this one was produced at Compass Point Studios by Chris Blackwell. No Sly, no Robbie et al., unfortunately...
Hype or masterpiece?

[Flamingo]

Should we play this one loud or not? (as recommended on label?)
When i bought this one in 1979 i was shocked. Too much rawness an weird sounds for my favorite sort of party music. The songs were made for a future generation.
Also this one was produced at Compass Point Studios by Chris Blackwell. No Sly, no Robbie et al., unfortunately...
Hype or masterpiece?

I say Loud AND In Your Face

[Uncle Paul]

Should we play this one loud or not? (as recommended on label?)
When i bought this one in 1979 i was shocked. Too much rawness an weird sounds for my favorite sort of party music. The songs were made for a future generation.
Also this one was produced at Compass Point Studios by Chris Blackwell. No Sly, no Robbie et al., unfortunately...
Hype or masterpiece?

In High School I started hanging out in our local Hi Fi store after I had saved up enough money for a decent system. I became friends with one of the salesmen who introduced me to a friend of his that had the first nig JBL's I'd heard - L300's. This guy was pretty dedicated to 1) listening to music, 2) getting and staying high, and 3) not working. To satisfy #3 he was living with his mom and sister.

This guy was a rock snob. No disco, no country, no pop, As for myself, good music is always good, and I don't care about the genre. He hated the B-52's, but his sister loved them. It was a hoot watching his mom scolding him to let his sister play this album in particular. To him it would have been a masterpiece... of torture. Me? I paid more attention to his sister, but alas I was a HS Junior and she was in her early 20's so the dice always came up snake eyes.

Those L300's made me a life long JBL fan, especially of their larger offerings.

[Fritz The Cat]

The Beatles or not the Beatles? This was the question in 1976. After all the hype and 42 years: it's a little masterpiece, isn't it?
"California Jam" A2: Beach Boys or not Beach Boys?

[Fritz The Cat]

Hype or masterpiece? Neil Landon, vocals.

[Fritz The Cat]

The vocals by Robert Plant are nearly unbearable. Wailing of an Eunuch beyond belief. Too bad, hence this was definitively a hype, IMHO. Exeption: "Immigrant song" was the wailing of a hungry Viking warrior returning from war back to his wife at home.....

[Kay Pirinha]

The vocals by Robert Plant are nearly unbearable. Wailing of an Eunuch beyond belief. Too bad, hence this was definitively a hype, IMHO. Exeption: "Immigrant song" was the wailing of a hungry Viking warrior returning from war back to his wife at home.....

LZ III definitely IS a masterpiece! Yes, it is totally different from any other LZ album and hence initially didn't satisfy LZ fans in 1970, but, according to Chris Welch and other sources, it's different sound and instrumentation was done deliberately.

Note Jimmy Page's guitar solo in Since I've Been Loving You (track A4), IMHO the best solo Jimmy did, and most probably one of the best guitar soli at all.

Btw, I've bought exactly the same French pressing of this album as yours in the 1970ies and owned it 'til I gave it to my younger son about two years ago. He still possesses it. In comparison to e.g. German pressings it sounds a bit muffled.

Best regards!

[Fritz The Cat]

LZ III definitely IS a masterpiece! Yes, it is totally different from any other LZ album and hence initially didn't satisfy LZ fans in 1970, but, according to Chris Welch and other sources, it's different sound and instrumentation was done deliberately.

Note Jimmy Page's guitar solo in Since I've Been Loving You (track A4), IMHO the best solo Jimmy did, and most probably one of the best guitar soli at all.

Btw, I've bought exactly the same French pressing of this album as yours in the 1970ies and owned it 'til I gave it to my younger son about two years ago. He still possesses it. In comparison to e.g. German pressings it sounds a bit muffled.

Best regards!

Agreed, concerning the guitar work and the composers benefits! But what do you think about the vocals of R.P. on LZ III?

[Fritz The Cat]

They had international format. The most experienced German Progrock group.
John Lawton, Peter Hesslein, Joachim Rietenbach, Dieter Horns, Peter Hecht.
Produced by the Rattles' Herbert Hildebrandt-Winhauer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGYLWwbiaik
No Hype IMHO.