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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I disagree.... First, 2269H is aprox 10 years (?) now and not at all new, and the DD design used is even older. And what about i.e. E2 and K2 speakers, they use "similar" technology as W1500H and not like 2269h. So I mean that this is not something one should consider important at all, and both are very good.

    I thought 2269H was great but I would imagine that W1500H will dig a bit deeper than 2269h and sound at least equally good, probably even better, but 2269H will play louder and give more "cinema like" bass.
    Hi baldrick,

    May be production cost, and users willing to pay is very important factor (remember JBL 1500AL, JBL 475BE driver as example).
    MAy be it would be inetresting to compare THD on teh same sound level between 2269 and w1500H

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivica View Post
    Hi baldrick,

    May be production cost, and users willing to pay is very important factor (remember JBL 1500AL, JBL 475BE driver as example).
    MAy be it would be inetresting to compare THD on teh same sound level between 2269 and w1500H

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    It look´s like 2269G/H are very good driver with very low THD
    http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...hp?22679-2269h

    I have not seen the THD for W1500H

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I disagree.... First, 2269H is aprox 10 years (?) now and not at all new, and the DD design used is even older. And what about i.e. E2 and K2 speakers, they use "similar" technology as W1500H and not like 2269h. So I mean that this is not something one should consider important at all, and both are very good.

    I thought 2269H was great but I would imagine that W1500H will dig a bit deeper than 2269h and sound at least equally good, probably even better, but 2269H will play louder and give more "cinema like" bass.

    I think at both 2269G/H and W1500H will have similar low end
    W1500H can do that in smaller enclosure
    2269G/H will of course play louder

    http://www.jblpro.com/www/products/r...8#.WkSu6Lp2uUk
    http://www.jblpro.com/ProductAttachm...heet060717.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    If you want max SQ: W1500H
    If you want max SPL: 2269H
    If you want max SPL pr/$ and doesn't need too much output below 25hz: 2242H

    You shouldn't care that much about xmax, and as far as I remember the 89mm on 2269 is not at all correct, I think it's +-19mm.
    How about 2245 that used in 4345?can it be replaced by 2242 or another?
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    How about 2245 that used in 4345?can it be replaced by 2242 or another?
    no, 2245 can not be replaced by 2242 in the 4345 monitor
    but there is possible to use 2269 instead of 2245

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlaari View Post
    no, 2245 can not be replaced by 2242 in the 4345 monitor
    but there is possible to use 2269 instead of 2245
    Great ideaWhy did JBL only have one 18'' studio monitor?
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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I disagree.... First, 2269H is aprox 10 years (?) now and not at all new, and the DD design used is even older.
    DD + neo is newer tech than SFG + ferrite. That's not up for debate.

    More importantly for the context of my recommendation, it's the same motor tech as the woofer in the OP's mains.

    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    And what about i.e. E2 and K2 speakers, they use "similar" technology as W1500H and not like 2269h.
    And if the OP planned on matching subs with E2 or K2, my recommendation would've been opposite...

    That said, earlier this month I was in NYC for work so I visited the Harman Store on Madison. They had a basement room with a full Levinson rig that drove either Revel Salon 2 or JBL K2. So I was able to A/B them. I was genuinely surprised how much better the Salon 2 sounded than the K2. Much more spacious, much cleaner midrange, airier. No less punchy, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    If you want max SQ: W1500H
    If you want max SPL: 2269H
    If you want max SPL pr/$ and doesn't need too much output below 25hz: 2242H

    You shouldn't care that much about xmax, and as far as I remember the 89mm on 2269 is not at all correct, I think it's +-19mm.
    I have to disagree. Having listened several times to S1S-EX and S2S-EX, I think SQ is ahead on the 2242H compared to the W1500H. Difficult to describe bass, but S1S-EX sounds tighter, cleaner and more effortless. (With focus on ~25hz-100hz).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonas_h View Post
    I have to disagree. Having listened several times to S1S-EX and S2S-EX, I think SQ is ahead on the 2242H compared to the W1500H. Difficult to describe bass, but S1S-EX sounds tighter, cleaner and more effortless. (With focus on ~25hz-100hz).
    How are those SUB18's treating you? I'm assuming those should be ahead of both the 2242H and W1500H units.

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    They're treating me very well Calibrated the system this weekend and I think the result so far is very good. They are articulate and reveals all nuances in the bass. They do sound different than my previous S1S-EX subs especially below ~40hz where they are more dynamic and more "controlled". The impact is scary.

    I cross the M2s and SUB18s at 80hz and it sounds like a complete system. Not "speakers and subs".

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    Sub18 specially if you are using the M2

    their is a special setting (harman ) if you are using dci cdi or itech amps

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    Where do you find SUB18 settings? I'm using BSS Soundwebs. But I could replicate from the DCi settings if needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valentin View Post
    That's for M2 and not SUB18? Or am I looking the wrong place?

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    Look inside the files

    there you will find for the M2 and also for the Sub18

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