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    W1500H vs 2269H

    I know this is probably a ridiculous question, but which driver do you think is better suited for a large, dedicated home theater space with accuracy and uncolored sound reproduction as top priority? I'm considering SUB18's or S2S-EX's for the theater room and they will be in the company of M2's as L/C/R. Desired output will be achieved by adding however many number of subs are needed. Also considering the 5628's since I hear they are a better value over the SUB18.

    What is the peak to peak excursion of the W1500H driver? I know the 2269 has a 3.5 inch peak to peak excursion (89mm).

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    One more unrelated question that comes to mind is the S1S-EX and the S2S-EX. I know physics dictate that the S1S-EX should be the superior sub being more efficient, having greater output capability etc, but from those that heard both, which do you prefer and why? I notice the FR graph for the S2S-EX seems more linear until about 25hz where it gradually starts to roll off, whereas the S1S-EX seems to be on a gradual downward slope from 80hz down. It's down almost 15db at 20hz from 80hz. I know eq can fix this, but it seems like the natural FR is a bit more linear on the S2S-EX.

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    If you want max SQ: W1500H
    If you want max SPL: 2269H
    If you want max SPL pr/$ and doesn't need too much output below 25hz: 2242H

    You shouldn't care that much about xmax, and as far as I remember the 89mm on 2269 is not at all correct, I think it's +-19mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    If you want max SQ: W1500H
    If you want max SPL: 2269H
    If you want max SPL pr/$ and doesn't need too much output below 25hz: 2242H

    You shouldn't care that much about xmax, and as far as I remember the 89mm on 2269 is not at all correct, I think it's +-19mm.
    That is interesting. Sound quality is most important, if more SPL is needed, you can just add more subs. I hear at Cedia 2015 they used 8 S2S-EXs and I heard great things about that demo.

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    I think at the X-max is close to be similar for both W1500H and 2269G/H and both are great for sub in home hifi or HT systems and light year better than 2242H


    2242H are great PA low frequency woofer and that was he made for

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    If you want max SQ: W1500H
    If you want max SPL: 2269H
    If you want max SPL pr/$ and doesn't need too much output below 25hz: 2242H

    You shouldn't care that much about xmax, and as far as I remember the 89mm on 2269 is not at all correct, I think it's +-19mm.

    89mm is the X-max before damage for 2269G/H

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    Thanks for the info. Looks like multiples of the S2S-EX should do it, or the SUB18. I was toying with the idea of the mammoth 5628 since it's a better value than the SUB18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdevil77 View Post
    Thanks for the info. Looks like multiples of the S2S-EX should do it, or the SUB18. I was toying with the idea of the mammoth 5628 since it's a better value than the SUB18.

    It look´s like the specs for S2S-EX are very good, but the enclosure are quite ugly!
    I would like to try my pair of W1500H in enclosure similar like the VT-4881 (2256G) with nice veneer finish

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    Quote Originally Posted by hlaari View Post
    I think at the X-max is close to be similar for both W1500H and 2269G/H and both are great for sub in home hifi or HT systems and light year better than 2242H


    2242H are great PA low frequency woofer and that was he made for
    Have you used 2269H?

    2269h might be better than 2242 but not at all light years... more output below 30hz but I honestly did not think they sounded very Different when I replaced them, 2242 is a Nice driver.

    W1500H is great and If you use several IT will probably be an excellent choise for HT use, but that is also the other drivers

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Have you used 2269H?

    2269h might be better than 2242 but not at all light years... more output below 30hz but I honestly did not think they sounded very Different when I replaced them, 2242 is a Nice driver.

    W1500H is great and If you use several IT will probably be an excellent choise for HT use, but that is also the other drivers
    How would you compare the W1500H to the 2269h? Besides output, which obviously the 2269h would beat out the W1500h.

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    Keep in mind that the 2269H has the same type of motor as the M2. The W1500H is an older type design, with large ferrite magnet.

    I'm sure they're both great subs. The predecessor to the W1500H, Revel/JBL SUB1500, certainly was. But at those prices I'd want the latest-greatest tech.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    Have you used 2269H?

    2269h might be better than 2242 but not at all light years... more output below 30hz but I honestly did not think they sounded very Different when I replaced them, 2242 is a Nice driver.

    W1500H is great and If you use several IT will probably be an excellent choise for HT use, but that is also the other drivers

    2242H, 2241H and 2240H can be used as sub with a lot of EQ
    2242H is a nice driver for that he were made for, good for bass and even midbass with low distortion
    https://www.jblpro.com/pages/pub/components/2242.pdf

    2269H, W1500H and the Revel 18" woofer are made for sub with way more X-max and much lower fs so they will handle better the frequency under 40Hz

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post
    Keep in mind that the 2269H has the same type of motor as the M2. The W1500H is an older type design, with large ferrite magnet.

    I'm sure they're both great subs. The predecessor to the W1500H, Revel/JBL SUB1500, certainly was. But at those prices I'd want the latest-greatest tech.
    I wonder why JBL didn't use the SUB18 at CEDIA when they were using M2s up front. I would assume they would of wanted to showcase them rather than using 8 of the older S2S-EX subs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DS-21 View Post
    Keep in mind that the 2269H has the same type of motor as the M2. The W1500H is an older type design, with large ferrite magnet.

    I'm sure they're both great subs. The predecessor to the W1500H, Revel/JBL SUB1500, certainly was. But at those prices I'd want the latest-greatest tech.
    I disagree.... First, 2269H is aprox 10 years (?) now and not at all new, and the DD design used is even older. And what about i.e. E2 and K2 speakers, they use "similar" technology as W1500H and not like 2269h. So I mean that this is not something one should consider important at all, and both are very good.

    I thought 2269H was great but I would imagine that W1500H will dig a bit deeper than 2269h and sound at least equally good, probably even better, but 2269H will play louder and give more "cinema like" bass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baldrick View Post
    I disagree.... First, 2269H is aprox 10 years (?) now and not at all new, and the DD design used is even older. And what about i.e. E2 and K2 speakers, they use "similar" technology as W1500H and not like 2269h. So I mean that this is not something one should consider important at all, and both are very good.

    I thought 2269H was great but I would imagine that W1500H will dig a bit deeper than 2269h and sound at least equally good, probably even better, but 2269H will play louder and give more "cinema like" bass.
    Getting a bit more technical, what about the W1500H would allow it to dig a bit deeper than the 2269h?

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