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    5235 card

    Dear forum

    Long time no see.
    Is there anyone who has tried to make 120hZ 18dB card for 5235?
    I can produce the print but need the component list.

    br Laszlo

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    Great Thanks!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Odd View Post
    120Hz is not normal value.
    You have to figure out the values yourself.

    From 5235 manual;

    Attachment 79392

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    I think I have them but for 80Hz. Maybe I an wrong.

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    Hjalmar you are right.

    When I read the manual again I see you are right.
    We should delete posts above for not having incorrect info about this.


    You will find a lot of info about 5235 here in French;
    http://vintage-jbl.forumpro.fr/t3066...-jbl-urei-5235
    43XX (2235-2123-2450-2405-CC 3155)5235-4412-4406-4401-L250-18Ti-L40-S109 Aquarius lV-C38 (030) 305P MkII

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    I'm the author of this French thread (I still have plans to translate it here) and I can help. You can use any JBL 18dB to do your own 18dB 120Hz.
    Somewhere in the thread there is the formula for calculating component values for a 18dB Butterworth filter with a single opamp.

    You can also use JBL values for another frequency and simply recalcule them as a ratio of the frequencies, but as JBL used normalised values for'the components and you'll get non exact values.

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    R1 = 9.1k
    R2 = 91k
    R3 = 27k
    R4 = 5.6k
    R5 = 18k
    R6 = 91k

    C1 = 0.15uF
    C2 = 0.068uF
    C3 = 0.01uF
    C4 = 0.22uF
    C5 = 0.033uF
    C6 = 0.033uF

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4435 View Post
    R1 = 9.1k
    R2 = 91k
    R3 = 27k
    R4 = 5.6k
    R5 = 18k
    R6 = 91k

    C1 = 0.15uF
    C2 = 0.068uF
    C3 = 0.01uF
    C4 = 0.22uF
    C5 = 0.033uF
    C6 = 0.033uF

    R1 = 4.75k
    R2 = 4.75k
    R3 = 4.75k
    C1 = 0.33uF
    C2 = 1uF
    C3 = 0.056uF

    R4 = 9.53k
    R5 = 3.74k
    R6 = 64.9k
    C4 = 0.1uF
    C5 = 0.1uF
    C6 = 0.1uF

    Many other combinations can be calculated, the easiest is by choosing identical values for R in the case of LF filter and C for HF filter. The advantage of using three identical values is interesting as when buying components to an on-line shop, you'll get large quantities that can be then used. Drawback is that to get more precise response, taking into acount that values are limited within a serie (E24..), you can optimise each cell, but the calculation is a bit more complicated (use D. Shelf book for this).

    For Butterworth 18dB/oct

    LF:
    C=1/2.pi.f.R
    C1/C=1.392646782
    C2/C=3.546818277
    C3/C=0.202451073
    HF:
    R=1/2.pi.f.C
    R/R4=1.392646782
    R/R5=3.546818277
    R/R6=0.202451073

    With these formulas you can also detect what are the errors or not so precise values in JBL tables.

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