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    Quote Originally Posted by turnitdown View Post
    You will get better answers from others, but here are my thoughts. The crack you speak of will probably occur in the mid range depending on where you cross over to the mid. If that is indeed the case, go the 2235 route and get all the bass benefit.
    I'll be crossing at 500Hz to the mid horn......interesting set of frequency ranges for the drum kit Toddalin......I assume the bass drum is somewhere around 40Hz. Being an ex drummer, if the drums don't sound right, it kills the whole thing for me.

    I don't listen to music with any overblown, artificial, synthesized bass, so I don't need the bottom end to plumb the depths. Just want that realistic sound from the kit when you wind the wick up a bit.

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    I just had my wife sit down and A/B her favorite song "Stairway to Heaven" on the L200/300 and the New Creation consisting of a 2241H 18", a 2251J ~10", and the Heil AMT. The crack on the snare and clarity of the kit is so much more noticable and the voice is clearer and more intelligable on the New Creation enough that she mentioned it.

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    Started the recone on the bass drivers today & have them all done, apart from the dust caps.
    Pretty tough to get down into the spider, but just took my time & tried not to panic. The Moyen goes off in a couple of minutes, so you do need to be fairly quick.

    Have my fingers crossed that when I pull the shims out, all will be OK. I've never done this before & it could be an expensive job if it doesn't work properly. I'll check the cone travel tomorrow after they've dried overnight........I don't want to hear any scratchy noises!
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    Success......what a relief. No scraping noises & all glued up & ready to go.
    They're a bit rough around the dust caps, but not too bad for a first attempt. I didn't have enough glue to do a trial run on some scrap material, but functionally it will be fine.

    It actually looks worse in the photos then in real life.

    Now have to start on the mid horn assemblies.
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    Way to go!

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    Made a start on the mid horns.

    Glueing up a few segments at a time & then sanding....glue a few more segments - sand again.
    Very time consuming, but if you just keep going you get through it.

    The larger one in the photo still has 4 segments to be glued on, the smaller one I haven't quite finished that section yet, done enough for the day.
    I can do about 3 segments per day, so I'm nearly half way through.
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    Nice work

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    Elliptrac Horns Finished

    So, after many, many hours of sanding, the horns are finally finished.
    Went for something fairly radical - Hammered Copper finish.

    Met with my cabinet maker & have all the plans finalised for the cabinets. We have changed from the original birch ply, due to the cost of that material & are now going with 32mm MDF for all panels. (Just hope I am going to be able to move them around). He is going to cut all the panels to size for me & use mortice & tenon joints to make the construction a bit easier for me. Should have some timber panels to work with in a couple of weeks.
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    Very impressive

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    Very impressive
    Thanks Ian, the finished product makes the effort all worthwhile.

    Can't wait to start on the cabinets.....should be making sawdust soon.

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    Great

    Keep us in the loop

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    Cool!

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    Some better shots......pity you won't see them when the grilles are on.
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    Cabinets have started - sorry about the photos, but this is from the cabinet makers shop. Will get some more detailed photos when I get them back to my place.

    All done on a CNC machine with mortice & tenon joints. All 32mm MDF.
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    More build photos.
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