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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    In terms of listening if you want the vintage JBL sound and have the space the 4345.

    If you don't the 4344.

    I prefer the look of the 4343.

    The 4344mk11 was the last revision and has more hifi sound due to the acquaplas diaphragm.
    The woofer is more sensitive and may sound lean compared to the 2235H used in the earlier 4344.

    You can't go wrong any of them.
    Thank you,seems very hard to chose,if i have 30 suare meter living room,which one should i chose?
    BTW,how about 4350 and 4355?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pioneer View Post
    I have both the 4343 and 4345 I have not heard the others, both are great but you can't beat the 18in 2245 in the 4345...

    The 4345 is now in the main listening room...The 4345 is a clone ( a well made clone with a fantastic crossover made by a forum member) the 4343 is factory JBL..the 4343 are now the rears in my Home theater with 250ti's the fronts..

    if you are to get the 4343 I would upgrade the factory crossover ( get rid of the bi-amp switch) when I tried the new 4345 crossover in the 4343 it was like taking a blanket off the front of the speaker...

    next best move was upgrading from the Ashley 1001 crossover to a Bryston 10b...wow...never thought it would make that much of a difference, it does

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    4345 is so good?which forum member made the crossover for 4345?
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    Hi Martin

    Please use the search function to locate more information about your questions. Audio is a very personal experience and your product selection is as much about who you as a person as it is about your taste and music preferences.

    We can’t make these decisions for you so you need to do your home work like every one else and then make a decision.

    Proceeding everything else you need to listen to these systems and experience it for your self.

    Do not listen to a 4343 on You tube

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    Hi to all,

    My answer to that question has to be the JBL HLA Series 4895 three-way all horn-loaded model. The reason being for its "out-of-the-box" thinking, innovative technologies and drivers.

    The "Space Frame" tubing (instead of a box) made of aluminum composites is an unconventional and interesting concept in my view.

    The accompanying subwoofer 4897/4897A has the outside appearance of a box, air contaiment obliges, however this model too was the subject of new ways (materials and technologies).

    I've had a large picture of the 4895 under the "glass" on my desk for many years and almost everyone's reaction to it is what the hell is "that thing "? Space invaders I tell them...

    These were developed by JBL in collaboration with Colorado's Audio Analysts Sound Contractor (if I recall correctly, the latter purchased in 2011 by Canada's Solotech to become their Las Vegas Office) for the Premium Touring market. The 1996 HLA Series brochure is quite nice. A JBL "White Paper" on that HLA Series also exists in their library, with comparisons to E-V and EAW, along with the usual product data sheets.

    As for the technological achievements here, BRAVO to Bill Gelow's team (Acoustical Engineering) and Doug Button's team (Transducer Engineering).

    Impressively tight frequency response curve for that type of system (+ or - 3 db, and even less on a good part of the spectrum). Considering horn coverage is given as 40° X 30°, this is a long-throw device, not exactly home hi-fi... But still quite interesting. Regards,

    Richard

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    Crossover

    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    I am very intresting about your modern charged-coupled crossover,from where do you get?
    I built the crossover from the print I got off this Web site.

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    EDIT RE POST # 79:

    Audio Analysts was in fact the system's testing and launching Sound contractor. I've found a joint ad from JBL/Audio Analysts in Pro Sound News, Sept. 1996, P. 58 and at the time of the testing phase the system had a different name: AALTO SYSTEM. The ad says: "Audio Analysts, utilizing world class technology from JBL Professional, has made the one truck arena Touring System a reality AALTO SYSTEM". The system's picture shown reveals some differences with JBL's final product (4895/4897). The "trial version" of the former appears to be a two-way (instead of three) and the subwoofer "trial box" of the latter seems to be housed in a tubing frame on wheels similar to 4895, instead of a more conventional looking subwoofer enclosure on the final product. Things evolve with testing in the field. In case you wonder about retail pricing, in EQ Magazine Jan. 1997 P. 74: $7,500.US for the 4895 and $3,990.US for the 4897.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post
    Hi Martin

    Please use the search function to locate more information about your questions. Audio is a very personal experience and your product selection is as much about who you as a person as it is about your taste and music preferences.

    We can’t make these decisions for you so you need to do your home work like every one else and then make a decision.

    Proceeding everything else you need to listen to these systems and experience it for your self.

    Do not listen to a 4343 on You tube
    Thanks for your suggestion,everyone has his taste,but we can not listen to all these speakers at same time and at same location as to make a AB comparison.
    Thus your comments on classic JBL speakers is very helpful
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    Quote Originally Posted by RMC View Post
    Hi to all,

    My answer to that question has to be the JBL HLA Series 4895 three-way all horn-loaded model. The reason being for its "out-of-the-box" thinking, innovative technologies and drivers.

    The "Space Frame" tubing (instead of a box) made of aluminum composites is an unconventional and interesting concept in my view.

    The accompanying subwoofer 4897/4897A has the outside appearance of a box, air contaiment obliges, however this model too was the subject of new ways (materials and technologies).

    I've had a large picture of the 4895 under the "glass" on my desk for many years and almost everyone's reaction to it is what the hell is "that thing "? Space invaders I tell them...

    These were developed by JBL in collaboration with Colorado's Audio Analysts Sound Contractor (if I recall correctly, the latter purchased in 2011 by Canada's Solotech to become their Las Vegas Office) for the Premium Touring market. The 1996 HLA Series brochure is quite nice. A JBL "White Paper" on that HLA Series also exists in their library, with comparisons to E-V and EAW, along with the usual product data sheets.

    As for the technological achievements here, BRAVO to Bill Gelow's team (Acoustical Engineering) and Doug Button's team (Transducer Engineering).

    Impressively tight frequency response curve for that type of system (+ or - 3 db, and even less on a good part of the spectrum). Considering horn coverage is given as 40° X 30°, this is a long-throw device, not exactly home hi-fi... But still quite interesting. Regards,

    Richard
    HLA 4895 is really that good? can it be used in home hi fi (or home theatre) system? what modifications should be made when in home hi fi system?
    46 lover

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    4345 4
    4350 4
    4435 2
    4430 1
    1400 6
    4365 5
    4367 1
    67000 6
    66000 2

    9900 3
    M2 3
    L100 3
    L200 1
    L300 2
    250Ti 3
    Salon2 2
    4895 1
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    Hello,

    has anybody sugesstions where to find the passive crossover option for the JBL HLA 4895 `?

    I have seen some pictures around from others but dont wan to start from scratch, as they are
    very "friendly" speakers his should not be to complicated :-)

    Regards Alex
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    I only have three to enter, at the moment:

    1. M2 (quite possibly the best speaker I've ever heard)
    2. L250 (always liked its sound better than the 250Ti)
    3. 4675 (it changed cinema sound, forever and had a VERY long run)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bassdabob View Post
    Hello,

    has anybody sugesstions where to find the passive crossover option for the JBL HLA 4895 `?

    I have seen some pictures around from others but dont wan to start from scratch, as they are
    very "friendly" speakers his should not be to complicated :-)

    Regards Alex
    Do you have HLA 4895 spec-sheet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sguttag View Post
    I only have three to enter, at the moment:

    1. M2 (quite possibly the best speaker I've ever heard)
    2. L250 (always liked its sound better than the 250Ti)
    3. 4675 (it changed cinema sound, forever and had a VERY long run)
    What gears do you have to driver your M2?except Crown
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    Quote Originally Posted by martin_wu99 View Post
    What gears do you have to driver your M2?except Crown
    Crown? Heavens no. I use QSC. I've driven them with both DCA and DPA-Q series amps (I prefer the sound the DCA amps over the DPA-Q). My exploits of using QSC's QSYS for driving my M2 clones are chronicled in the DYI thread on the M2.

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    I will say what speakers I would loved to have heard. And they also look incredible visually

    4312 monitors
    Everest
    K2 S9500
    S3900 (which I have heard in a showroom)
    TLX 9GI (which has a classic 1980s look).

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