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    Yes, it is a Wurlitzer, the 200A.

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    Personally, I prefer the sound of the Wurlitzer. I had a very first generation when I was ~15 that I paid $70 for. Like this one, and maybe older. Traded it, and a Hammond M3, for a full sized Hammond D (C3 without percussion or vibrato) with Leslie 122RV. Later had the D "cut down" and percussion added.

    Wurtlitzer strikes reeds with a blob of solder added/filed to tune. Rhodes strikes wands with sliding weights to tune. I think the reeds have more harmonics.



    Also had the 1st generation Hohner Clavinet in 1973.

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    Main difference?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kay Pirinha View Post
    Yes, it is a Wurlitzer, the 200A.

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    What's the main difference, concerning the sound, between the Fender Rhodes and the Wurlitzer 200A piano?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz The Cat View Post
    What's the main difference, concerning the sound, between the Fender Rhodes and the Wurlitzer 200A piano?
    Like I said, Wurlitzer uses reeds and Rhodes uses wands/tines to produce the sound and I think that the reeds have more harmonics. Both have a sustain pedal.

    Hohner also made an electric piano and I believe it uses reeds, but has no provisions for a sustain pedal. It has a sound all it's own that is instantly recognizable. Just listen to Brian May play his in the many Queen songs.

    BTW, that's not it he's playing in the video, though you hear it.

    https://youtu.be/HaZpZQG2z10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fritz The Cat View Post
    What's the main difference, concerning the sound, between the Fender Rhodes and the Wurlitzer 200A piano?
    Fritz,

    mind to compare the electric piano sounds of the Rhodes in Riders On The Storm, that we all like, with the Wurlitzer that we can hear in almost any tunes by Supertramp, for instance?

    I fully second toddalin's opinion that the Wurly has ample of harmonics, while the Rhodes's sound is more bell-like (sinusoidal with attack, decay, sustain and release).

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    Quote Originally Posted by toddalin View Post
    Personally, I prefer the sound of the Wurlitzer. I had a very first generation when I was ~15 that I paid $70 for. Like this one, and maybe older. Traded it, and a Hammond M3, for a full sized Hammond D (C3 without percussion or vibrato) with Leslie 122RV. Later had the D "cut down" and percussion added.

    Wurtlitzer strikes reeds with a blob of solder added/filed to tune. Rhodes strikes wands with sliding weights to tune. I think the reeds have more harmonics.



    Also had the 1st generation Hohner Clavinet in 1973.
    Is this a Hohner Clavinet D6? This is well known from Stevie Wonder who played it frequently, for instance in Superstitious.

    There are some more electric pianls as well. Does anyone remember the RMI Electra Piano? It can be heard within Siberian Khatru by Yes on the Yessongs live album, where Rick Wakeman plays a rapid passage inmidst the song.

    Now here is what I've hauled into our home last Sunday. This is a first hand Hammond C-2 organ in almost pristine estate that I bought from a church at Hamburg. As per the serial #40434, it has been made at the Hammond factory at Chicago, Ill. somewhen between 1905 and 1952 and has been imported by that church then. Look at that beautiful Quatrefoil decoration on the dark walnut case!

    Along with it came two JR-20 tone cabinets. One of them is sitting in the room with the organ, the other one I've placed into storage.

    It I can get my hands on a Leslie 122, 122RV or 251, I'll let the JR-20's go.

    It appears that the organ needs some TLC: The tone wheel generator's wax paper filter capacitors apparently have degenerated, so need replacement by properly tuned ones and a recalibration afterwards. And I'm afraid that the organ suffers from foam cancer. The remedy would be soldering in 1098 (9 contacts per key times 61 keys per manual times 2 manuals) fixed resistors and rebuilding the manuals' harnesses with solderable enamelled copper wire. Some tedious task, I think...

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    Sorry, I have to stand corrected in two cases:

    1st: In contrary to the Fender Rhodes and the Wurlitzer electric pianos, the RMI Electra Piano doesn't feature any oscillating mechanical parts. Instead, the sounds were created by transistorized oscillators.

    Here's it's sound: https://youtu.be/z5UV7lntAB8?t=185

    2nd: My C-2 was built between 1950 and 1952, of course. This was a typo by me. Pardon me, please!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kay Pirinha View Post
    Sorry, I have to stand corrected in two cases:

    1st: In contrary to the Fender Rhodes and the Wurlitzer electric pianos, the RMI Electra Piano doesn't feature any oscillating mechanical parts. Instead, the sounds were created by transistorized oscillators.

    Here's it's sound: https://youtu.be/z5UV7lntAB8?t=185

    2nd: My C-2 was built between 1950 and 1952, of course. This was a typo by me. Pardon me, please!

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    The Wurl, Rhode, and Hohner Pianet were the only three that used hammers/vibrating something or other. All others were electronic.

    And I believe that the Vox Continental Baroque (I also had) came out before the RMI. Like the RMI, the upper keyboard on the VOX Baroque has a separate "keyer" for each key of the keyboard, unlike a Hammond or Lowrey percussion which is "one shot."

    Before Valley Sound cut down my Hammond D, it looked like the C in the picture. After the transformation, it looked like the one the keyboard player in Angel uses. Was $3,000 (1972-1973) to do the cut-down and refinish the two Leslies. This included adding percussion, and mine was the only one made (probably ever) that retained the full pedal board that plugged into the bottom of console with a 50 pin amphenol. My Hammond was from the '40s.

    Didn't cost me anything. A friend was delivering the organ/Leslies from Las Vegas to LA and he hit the inspection station with his van because the sun was right in their eyes, and those old Ford Falcon vans had lousy brakes, really doing a number on the cabinet (not to mention splitting his head open requiring beaucoup stitches). Insurance paid for everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kay Pirinha View Post
    Is this a Hohner Clavinet D6? This is well known from Stevie Wonder who played it frequently, for instance in Superstitious.

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    No, that is the 1st generation Clavinet I. These were followed by the Clavinet C, which Stevie originally played, followed by the D6, which he later played. But now he uses a Vintage Vibe Clavinet where they now modify the old Clavinets and add "auto-waa".

    Clavinet C:https://youtu.be/jaY_fxlpeII


    Clavinet D6: https://youtu.be/DmVBN7EGCVs

    Vintage Vibe Reconstruction (They also do Wurlitzer electric pianos):https://youtu.be/U_4G6juQsRI
    https://youtu.be/5drgJM1CjRk


    https://www.vintagevibe.com/products/vibanet

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