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    One usually finds an opportunity for 4343's or 4435's over a lifetime if they are lucky. Never in one year. Congrats Hjalmar!!! Can't wait to hear your impressions between the two.

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    As the 4435 were mounted in the wall the bases are missing. Can somebody please tell me the size of the base and the distance from the outside ? Is it only mounted on 3 sides ?

    Thank you

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    Just like the witness marks on yours show are how mine are. Front and sides only. Right about 1.5" / 38mm square stock.

    I can measure the inset on Tuesday when I get back to the office.

    Barry.
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    I think those bases are pretty close in size to a 2 x 4 ripped in half and stood on edge. That's what worked for me on my 4430s.
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    New terminals

    As somebody soldered the heavy wire to the input terminals I had to mount new ones. These are for thick wire and banana plugs and fit perfect. I will build the bases this weekend.

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    I mounted the bases yesterday. So I am only waiting for the 4 foam kits to repair the 2234. Meanwhile there is time to sand and oil the cabinets. It is the first time that I will try this, will test it on an older cabinet first.....

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    Looking good!

    It will be fun to know how you feel they compare to your 4343's.

    All the best,
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    Looks like they cleaned up really nice, the Blue cloth looks excellent. Nice collection you got going there, great story. Congrats again & Enjoy.
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    Refoamed

    Last night I finished refoaming the 2234s. I will fit them into the cabinets this weekend end then compare them to my 4343.

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    4435 vs. 4343

    After fitting the 2234 I was wondering how the 4435 would sound against my 4343. As I have not enough poweramps I have to connect the 4435 to internal crossover and a Crown DC300. My 4343 are bi-amped with DSP 2-way 290Hz, Pioneer SA9500 for hi and Pioneer Spec4 for low.
    My first impression is that the 4435 have great image, the 4343 are more "spacious" and have less or no image. When I switch between the two it is hard to tell which sound better.
    But when turning up the volume the 4343 have much better "punch" and dynamic. There is really no replacement for a 10" lowmid.
    For the kind of music that I prefer the 4343 are the better choice. Electric guitars, drums and horns sound much better in my 63 years old ears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevelle View Post
    After fitting the 2234 I was wondering how the 4435 would sound against my 4343. As I have not enough poweramps I have to connect the 4435 to internal crossover and a Crown DC300. My 4343 are bi-amped with DSP 2-way 290Hz, Pioneer SA9500 for hi and Pioneer Spec4 for low.
    My first impression is that the 4435 have great image, the 4343 are more "spacious" and have less or no image. When I switch between the two it is hard to tell which sound better.
    But when turning up the volume the 4343 have much better "punch" and dynamic. There is really no replacement for a 12" lowmid.
    For the kind of music that I prefer the 4343 are the better choice. Electric guitars, drums and horns sound much better in my 63 years old ears.

    Hjalmar
    Hi Chevelle,

    So "incorporating" mid-bass such as 2202H into 4435 would be final solution...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chevelle View Post
    ....But when turning up the volume the 4343 have much better "punch" and dynamic. There is really no replacement for a 10" lowmid...Hjalmar
    My sentiment exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post
    My sentiment exactly!

    Barry.
    Hi,

    As previously written 12" instead of 10" after "correction", but I really like 2202 in 4350/55 combo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ivica View Post
    Hi Chevelle,

    So "incorporating" mid-bass such as 2202H into 4435 would be final solution...

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    Or perhaps a 2344 handling the high end on a 4343 set-up. That way you keep the superior imaging.
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    time alignment

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Zeppeli View Post
    Or perhaps a 2344 handling the high end on a 4343 set-up. That way you keep the superior imaging.
    The key to the superior imaging of the 4435 is the exact time alignment of the 2421 and the 2234. So the 2344 horn alone is not making the same image. I wonder if somebody has build a 4343 setup with all speakers in exact time alignment.

    But anyway, the way the 4343 are constructed is right for the kind of music which was recorded with these monitors in the control room.

    Hjalmar

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