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    foilcals for 4345

    Is there a source for the 4345 foilcals? I have everything covered except for those.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quindecima View Post
    Is there a source for the 4345 foilcals? I have everything covered except for those.

    Hi,
    you can get in touch with Rudy. Very nice guy.
    He has what you need!

    [email protected]

    C

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    Quote Originally Posted by quindecima View Post
    Is there a source for the 4345 foilcals? I have everything covered except for those.
    I'd look for an alternative first (there are other people and technologies that can do it for you and just as nicely)
    Mr "Sign--Shop" is one of the worst gougers on ePay I have ever encountered in a long long time
    Specialty "niche" product or not
    His rates are confiscatory for all of his shit
    I especially enjoy his $4 dollar machine screws complete with a .10 chinese T-nut (and don't forget the $3.95 shipping)
    I wouldn't spend a nickel with this guy
    I realize there are costs involved to set this up, but with today's graphics and printing capabilities....................this guy is, to just put it simply, "Fing" people who don't know where else to go (or, that they CAN go somewhere else) Once he has his template, it costs him peanuts to turn these out

    I believe in capitalism and honest profits 100% but not taking advantage of fish in a barrel, PLUS he doesn't even do the number embossing!

    I also wonder if he has JBL's permission to do this shit and use all of their trademarked/copyrighted logos, materials and colors?

    This guy is a rip off (and I don't care if he's your friend or not) He's gouging, taking advantage of a situation:
    http://www.ebay.com/sch/sign--shop/m...p2047675.l2562

    BUT, this is still The U.S.A. the last time I looked, so he can do whatever the hell it is he wants to do, and so can I, NOT give him a nickel OR the time of day

    Y'all be good!

    Thomas

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    On another note:
    If anyone has a pair of foilcals they have ruined but are still intact metal wise (as in not torn) I will be happy to try and repair them for you at least well enough until a better pair/option comes long

    Price would be just a few dollars for materials and postage ( couldn't imagine it being more than $10 bucks top) MAYBE $15 if I have to lacquer them numerous times to even them out

    Thomas

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    I wonder what kind of printer he's using. He told me that it would take a week to make them and two days later they were in the mail.
    They are very nice looking but this crazy expensive! $205 CAD! They cost me more than my 2405s! Crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    I also wonder if he has JBL's permission to do this shit and use all of their trademarked/copyrighted logos, materials and colors?
    Sadly, JBL's in such disarray they've not a chance - nor a care? - to keep their logos and TMs protected.

    I've waited for 8 weeks to get a biamp/DSP module for one of the VP line - a terrific line which has a lot of units out in use. We cannot get answers, let alone parts. JBL now says they're not sure they make the module anymore (even after giving an updated part no.), but they cannot find them, regardless. They offered B stock - I said great, I'll take three (since you're running out and I have eight units in constant rotation). But, they wouldn't ship. More weeks. Then, they report they are not sure they have them. Today, they O/N them without us even asking. And this experience it twice as bad as an identical one, last year...
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    Quote Originally Posted by boputnam View Post
    Sadly, JBL's in such disarray they've not a chance - nor a care? - to keep their logos and TMs protected.

    I've waited for 8 weeks to get a biamp/DSP module for one of the VP line - a terrific line which has a lot of units out in use. We cannot get answers, let alone parts. JBL now says they're not sure they make the module anymore (even after giving an updated part no.), but they cannot find them, regardless. They offered B stock - I said great, I'll take three (since you're running out and I have eight units in constant rotation). But, they wouldn't ship. More weeks. Then, they report they are not sure they have them. Today, they O/N them without us even asking. And this experience it twice as bad as an identical one, last year...
    Is Dave in Pro Parts still working there?
    When faced with another JBL find, Good mech986 says , JBL Fan mech986 says

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    Take a look at the money that changes hands to hang a new sign on the front of any of the major or famous sports venues today
    BRANDING is where all of the money is today, now that we live in a nation that no longer manufactures shit...................
    Many times (and it is well documented) once GREAT, iconic companies fall into a state of disarray to the point that they barely resemble even a shadow of their former selves
    BUT, that (their) NAMES and all those REGISTERED trademarks are still as negotiable a security as silver or gold and they still sell boat loads (in today's case "shit" loads) of product thanks to enduring recognition:
    Advent
    KLH
    Philco
    Garrad
    Crosley
    Telefunken
    Fisher (well Sanyo pretty much used that one up by the early '90s, but you catch my drift)
    and on and on and on it goes..................you get my point

    I can flat ass out guarantee you that Jane (or at least one of her 5,000 attorneys on retainer) does indeed still give a care about those trademarks and logos, and protecting them (i.e.: making them revenue generators) whether she still holds any respect for them or not (or even if he ever did)

    Even if the actual company and it's legacy products are dead now and in the cold cold ground

    Grand old iconic high quality American names are solid gold for any and all chinese holding/distribution companies for sure and that's a fact

    That's almost all that's left of our once "engine of democracy" manufacturing prowess of consumer commodities, the name(s)

    Even those companies that are still viable in one area or another will license out or "spin off" their name (at a tremendous profit) for goods they no longer have any interest in; I often weep (literally) when I stroll the isles of a general goods store and see the pure SHIT emblazoned with the name "General Electric" on the package

    JBL cares about it's trademarks and logos, believe you me.

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    Thomas,

    Given your passion on the matter of the foilcals and apparent resourcefulness and articulation of how to do it "better" why not apply your talents to arranging a cost effective group buy much like those on Diyaudio.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    I'd look for an alternative first (there are other people and technologies that can do it for you and just as nicely)
    Mr "Sign--Shop" is one of the worst gougers on ePay I have ever encountered in a long long time
    Specialty "niche" product or not
    His rates are confiscatory for all of his shit
    I especially enjoy his $4 dollar machine screws complete with a .10 chinese T-nut (and don't forget the $3.95 shipping)
    I wouldn't spend a nickel with this guy
    I realize there are costs involved to set this up, but with today's graphics and printing capabilities....................this guy is, to just put it simply, "Fing" people who don't know where else to go (or, that they CAN go somewhere else) Once he has his template, it costs him peanuts to turn these out

    I believe in capitalism and honest profits 100% but not taking advantage of fish in a barrel, PLUS he doesn't even do the number embossing!

    I also wonder if he has JBL's permission to do this shit and use all of their trademarked/copyrighted logos, materials and colors?

    This guy is a rip off (and I don't care if he's your friend or not) He's gouging, taking advantage of a situation:
    http://www.ebay.com/sch/sign--shop/m...p2047675.l2562

    BUT, this is still The U.S.A. the last time I looked, so he can do whatever the hell it is he wants to do, and so can I, NOT give him a nickel OR the time of day

    Y'all be good!

    Thomas
    Hi Wagner,
    I have to agree with you. I didn't know that he had this reputation.
    He justified the shipping cost to Canada because ebay was asking fees to ship it to Kentucky then to me. Was wierd but I just did it. Won't get anything from him.
    Still looking pegs...
    C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger604 View Post
    Hi Wagner,
    I have to agree with you. I didn't know that he had this reputation.
    I am not attacking his reputation at all; some people even love the guy from what I hear

    What I am saying is that he is an opportunistic, price gouging hustler (and not a very ethical one in my view) for charging the money he does for what it is he's making, makes no matter that it's a "niche" product

    It ain't that hard and it ain't that special to do (anymore)

    With today's printing technology (and cutting) it's an Fing insult to my intelligence what this guy is charging for his goods and he can't/won't even serialize them?!

    The Beauty of it all is, this is (still) America and he can do whatever the hell it is he wants, and charge the same as well

    But there's another part of that Beauty, My Opinion, and anyone who doesn't share it or like it? Tough shit

    The guy's prices are bull shit, and to make matters worse he also gouges on "shipping"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger604 View Post
    Hi Wagner,
    I have to agree with you. I didn't know that he had this reputation.
    He justified the shipping cost to Canada because ebay was asking fees to ship it to Kentucky then to me. Was wierd but I just did it. Won't get anything from him.
    Still looking pegs...
    C
    Make 'em an offer with a nice note attached:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-L-Series...4AAOSw8-tWZ1a7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wagner View Post
    Make 'em an offer with a nice note attached:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/JBL-L-Series...4AAOSw8-tWZ1a7
    Thanks Wagner! I can wait for it. Looking for black pegs.
    C

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    Quote Originally Posted by Challenger604 View Post
    Thanks Wagner! I can wait for it. Looking for black pegs.
    C
    If I can dig some black ones up I'll send them to you
    It always works that way; when you want one, you can only find the other (unless you're willing to pay the ridiculous $10 bucks a pop price
    The white ones can always be made black if that seller will give you a reasonable deal

    I'll check with a flipper friend of mine tomorrow (yeah, we all know at least one), we may get lucky; he's got a pair of trashed cabs but right now I don't know what's left on them

    Best wishes,
    Thomas

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    I love sign shop eBay user. He is really fair for quality of his work. Also he has some spectular custom Jbl speakers he made from exotic woods.

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