If you could choose... what would be your choice of 15 up to aprox 800 hz if:
1500FE, 1501FE, ME150HS, 2216ND, 2235, 2234, 2255, 2225, 2226
Other alternatives? (not thinking 1500/1501AL this time)
If you could choose... what would be your choice of 15 up to aprox 800 hz if:
1500FE, 1501FE, ME150HS, 2216ND, 2235, 2234, 2255, 2225, 2226
Other alternatives? (not thinking 1500/1501AL this time)
In decending order, based on what I actually own and have really used and I assume is for home use not sound reinforcemnet:
1501Fe-1, 2216Nd, big gap,, 2234, 2235, another gap, 2225, another gap, 2226.
Barry.
If we knew what the hell we were doing, we wouldn't call it research would we.
Very interesting, in what way do you prefer the 1501fe over the 2216Nd?Originally Posted by 1audiohack
One of the reasons for asking is similar to the one bubbleboy is asking. A few wees ago I was of the understanding that 2216ND was the way to go... but lately with the introduction of 4367 With 2216ND several have said that this is a step down from 4365 With 1501FE, so maybe 1501FE is a better Choice? And what about the older 1500FE.
Also intersting to see how you rank the newer compared to the older, and also that you rank 2226 that low
HELLO, ELLO, ello, llo, lo, o, .
I'm down here at the bottom with my stack of 2226 questioning the meaning of life, the World and everything in it. Thanks!
Hoping the result won't be as dire as what you've painted here, and that they will perform acceptably between 60-300 which is the intention. Give it to me straight Doc, lol.
He didn't write "gap" in between them, I took this to mean they were not drastically different enough to warrant a "gap".
One thing that might be worth considering - you can actually buy the 2216Nd and any of the other 22XX woofers.
I am partial to E-145's. Need subs but they are very good over that range. Have not tuned up the 2216's could be a fun comparison. Rob
"I could be arguing in my spare time"
And at around 4kg you can even ship them from the US to Europe for reasonable costs
The "step down" is from the 476Mg (and arguably 045) to the D2430K, NOT the 2216Nd instead of the 1501FE...One of the reasons for asking is similar to the one bubbleboy is asking. A few wees ago I was of the understanding that 2216ND was the way to go... but lately with the introduction of 4367 With 2216ND several have said that this is a step down from 4365 With 1501FE, so maybe 1501FE is a better Choice? And what about the older 1500FE.
Also intersting to see how you rank the newer compared to the older, and also that you rank 2226 that low
The D2430K is significantly less expensive to manufacture compared to the 476Mg. And getting rid of the 045 adds even more savings. Regardless, there will be plenty of people who are thoroughly satisfied with the high frequency performance of the D2430K, it really is quite good.
OK, thanx for this "update", but I thought others also have said similar that they prefer 1501FE, but I take this that you mean 2216ND is still the woofer to use?
1500 and 1501FE are also possible to get
How would 1500FE compare to 1501FE or 2216ND? For me, 1500FE would be the cheaper alterantive, but not by that much.
I really hate to be the bearer of bad news but JBL isn't using the 2216Nd in the S4700, M2 and 4367 because they forgot that the 1501Fe was better. They know which transducer is the current king of the hill...
I view this latest 4367 introduction as very probably the end of the 1500FE ferrite series transducer. It was mentioned years ago with the introduction of the S4700 that if neo stabilized the 2216Nd would probably become the transducer of choice. I could be wrong, but I think the 1500AL alnico series is also dead.
The M2 has been out for nearly three years now and if people still aren't "getting it" then that is their loss.
Regardless, my personal opinion is that none of these transducers are heads and tails better than any of the others. Starting with the original 1500AL, I don't see where a person can go wrong with any of them. Pick your poison.
You are probably correct but my guess is also that 2216ND is a cheaper alterantive for JBL than 1501FE
I believe you are correct. I think there was something like a $50 factory cost difference between them. A case where more expensive doesn't always lead to better performance. J.M. did a stellar job with the design of the 2216Nd. It really is better than anything Pro had. I really wanted to dislike that transducer but alas, that turned out to be impossible.You are probably correct but my guess is also that 2216ND is a cheaper alterantive for JBL than 1501FEI'm still waiting for someone to say something like "The 2216Nd is good but..." It just isn't happening. Yet.
Maybe someday.
Where?1500 and 1501FE are also possible to get
Is the 2216Nd beaming/directing the sound more than the others mentioned here? Is that where the extra dynamic comes from?
It looks steeper and deeper the cone, so to speak. Is it working lika a horn almost?
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