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    End of an Era. 43 years with JBL is Over

    I was unceremoniously separated from employment by Harman following a 90 second explanation. My position was eliminated! Following an explanation of benefits, I was escorted out. The timing came as a surprise and as such, I haven't thought about my future plans. While I don't need to work financially, I need to be active and challenged so I must figure out what makes sense for me going forward. To be clear, this is not what I wanted or deserved, but I will not comment further on details until a much later date. My decision, not theirs.It was a good run and I am very pleased that I have brought so many people enjoyment with the products I have developed over the last 4 decades. Once things settle down, I hope to be more available on the forum, but I need some time to adjust.My best wishes to all you JBL fans. Treat your products well and enjoy them while you can.Best Regards,Greg Timbers
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    I am speechless... What the... !

    But probably, now you can design even better sounding systems in the future (if you want to), free from the commercial interests of the big corporation.

    Maybe this is a case of the Peter principle? I find this amusing, that all large corporations, by nature, in the end are managed by incompetent persons on all levels. Just ask Volkswagen!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle
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    I'm only sorry to hear the news because it wasn't by your own choice. I appreciate that you've brought it to our attention and proud that you think of yourself as one of us. My favorite systems are those in which you had a hand and I am grateful that you had such a positive impact on the way I enjoy music.

    All the best and I hope we'll hear from you again soon and often.



    We've been talking about the end of an era at JBL for a few years, but this clinches it for me! So sad.
    ". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers

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    Hello Greg!

    I am sorry that you didn't get out on your own terms.

    I am truly grateful to you. I love music and your speaker systems do a great job of delivering the goods. This has improved my quality of life, thank you.

    I hope your future is bright and we get to share it with you in some way or another, as we have in the past.

    All the best,
    Barry Singleton.
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    I sure have enjoyed listening to your designs over the years. I expect that you will find that your services are much in demand.

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    this is proof how companies think this days, no respect to the people who build up the companies with many great ideas

    Greg Timbers I wish you all the best
    thank you for all the great JBL speakers you have made all this 43 years


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    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post
    Hello Greg!

    I am sorry that you didn't get out on your own terms.

    I am truly grateful to you. I love music and your speaker systems do a great job of delivering the goods. This has improved my quality of life, thank you. ....
    Couldn't agree more.

    The way corporate America treats it's people today is a disgrace. What a way to make money.

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    thank you for the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gtimbers View Post
    I was unceremoniously separated from employment by Harman following a 90 second explanation. My position was eliminated! Following an explanation of benefits, I was escorted out. The timing came as a surprise and as such, I haven't thought about my future plans. While I don't need to work financially, I need to be active and challenged so I must figure out what makes sense for me going forward. To be clear, this is not what I wanted or deserved, but I will not comment further on details until a much later date. My decision, not theirs.It was a good run and I am very pleased that I have brought so many people enjoyment with the products I have developed over the last 4 decades. Once things settle down, I hope to be more available on the forum, but I need some time to adjust.My best wishes to all you JBL fans. Treat your products well and enjoy them while you can.Best Regards,Greg Timbers
    Dear Mr. G.T.,
    I have been amassed while reading this post, and I believe that most of this Forum members would be sorry while reaching this information, that JBL legendary Mr.G.T. will not continue to improve JBL product in the unselfish way as He has done in last 43 years ( what a coincidence - number 43 - for the novice: do read more about 43xx studio monitors ), but his work would leave non hide-able groves in JBL engineering profile. To day we are aware of the statement that most of the engineering production company are "led" by the PEOPLE for home ONLY Stock-exchange index are the only reference without any future vision. We can remember the name "ALTEC (Lancing)" what is was, and what it is now, in the audio field.
    Me, as a AH Forum member, would enjoy in the opportunity that respectable Mr.G.T., would spend some more time with us, giving to us a piece of his enormous knowledge and experience in the science of sound, and engineering trade-offs, that would effectively lead us to the more realistic reproduction of music, and voices.

    Best Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by ivica View Post
    Dear Mr. G.T.,
    I have been amassed while reading this post, and I believe that most of this Forum members would be sorry while reaching this information, that JBL legendary Mr.G.T. will not continue to improve JBL product in the unselfish way as He has done in last 43 years ( what a coincidence - number 43 - for the novice: do read more about 43xx studio monitors ), but his work would leave non hide-able groves in JBL engineering profile. To day we are aware of the statement that most of the engineering production company are "led" by the PEOPLE for home ONLY Stock-exchange index are the only reference without any future vision. We can remember the name "ALTEC (Lancing)" what is was, and what it is now, in the audio field.
    Me, as a AH Forum member, would enjoy in the opportunity that respectable Mr.G.T., would spend some more time with us, giving to us a piece of his enormous knowledge and experience in the science of sound, and engineering trade-offs, that would effectively lead us to the more realistic reproduction of music, and voices.

    Best Regards
    Ivica

    I am very sorry to hear this.
    HK did a friend of mine that was a designer for Elan Home systems the same way.They did all the senior engineers that way from what I was told.
    Sent in a hatchet man and same as you, 2 minute discussion and goodbye Mr. engineer.
    All the best.

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    They are hanging everything off the Everest as a name in the lifestyle markets and everything off the M2 as innovation in the consumer range. This simply means there is no requirement for individual thought and creativity.

    The classical loudspeaker designer at JBL is dead and JBL is raising revenue off patents and branding alone.

    That might work for white goods and lawn mowers but the savey home consumers are looking for a more personalised message and who is behind the brand in world of noise filled with brands and techology.

    When The designer is linked to the brand this can mean as much if not more than the technology to the purchaser when evaluating a complex purchase decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian Mackenzie View Post

    The classical loudspeaker designer at JBL is dead and JBL is raising revenue off patents and branding alone.

    That might work for white goods and lawn mowers but the savey home consumers are looking for a more personalised message and who is behind the brand in world of noise filled with brands and techology.

    When The designer is linked to the brand this can mean as much if not more than the technology to the purchaser when evaluating a complex purchase decision.
    Out.

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    Boy am I late. thank you for all the outstanding speakers you design which bought joy to our ears. Greg you gave the name JBL strength respect in the audio world. I hope you do not stop here. I would love to see and hear your new line of audio speakers

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    Tragic news mate. To me, you were always synonymous with JBL.

    I tend to gravitate towards speakers you designed and will pretty much buy anything if it is a Greg Timbers design/influence.

    Appreciate all you have done and am excited that you are gonna be around here to contribute a bit more!

    All the best in future endeavors and I am sure if you wanted to pursue work in a similar field you would have quite the CV.

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    Oh wow, that's bad! Can't find a better description other than the Harman acted like ungrateful scumbags.
    The name "Greg Timbers" was a synonym for JBL for many years and it will always remain that.
    I know, I know it's not the time for jokes but.....43 years, could it have something to do with the '43 series?

    A BIG thank you to you for all your knowledge, time and effort.

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