Dear Fellow Audiophile Friends,
I was wondering if anyone could supply us with the quantity of JBL L220's manufactured and sold from the time they were introduced (was it 1979)? until the end of production (1981)?
How about how many pairs may still be in circulation that haven't been parted out or mutilated somehow?
Any information deeply appreciated...
Thank You!
kind regards,
Ralph
ps: I do own a very nice pair.
Well, there's yours.Originally Posted by dinoboom
1. Ralph (dinoboom), White River Junction, VT
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That ought to get your registry started!
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Thank You! I do hope there will be someone that has an idea of the actual number of pairs JBL made of the L220's? Or maybe direct me to someone somewhere that may know these things? Maybe Harmon International?
Have a pleasant day!
Sincerely, Raffaele
Here ya go!
http://www.harman.com/EN-US/ContactU...ContactUs.aspx
Let us know what they say.
FWIW, I owned a pair from ~1981 to ~2011 or so.
If you google them, look for HarMAN - spelling it Harmon won't get you there.
All kidding aside - I'm pretty sure I read that all kinds of JBL production records were lost during the 1994 Northridge earthquake -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Northridge_earthquake
I think they honestly don't know anymore.
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PS: I just got off the phone with JBL Professional and an authorized JBL service center in Stoneham, MA. The JBL L220's were in production from 1978 to 1989. They did not any have production numbers...
My Dear Friends,
Thank YOU! Great information...
Just in case I did send a message to Harman and I'll follow up with all you fine folks here with whatever they share with me.
Have a blessed and pleasant day!
Kind regards,
Raffaele
PS: I've asked or screened out this question before, but I'm going to be bold and ask again for input..What do you feel the JBL L220's should yield on the market today price wise? Just about ALL the JBL's appreciate in value and I'm curious. When anyone has a moment could you let me know your thoughts about this matter of pricing a value!?!
Contact Kenrick Sound; probably your best bet for what you seek:
http://translate.google.com/translat...m/&prev=search
I sold mine and a Sausui G-9700 for $500.
Indeed, about 4 different ways and about 26 or 27 times...............you're not going to make bank off that pair of speakers, no matter how many times or people you ask; especially now that you have well documented a sonic presentation issue (the sound between the two being asymmetrical), that, or you have mismatched woofers (I gave up on trying to decipher the rambling "threads") I can't speak for everyone out there, but I know that if the price goes north of $500 I'm going to want to actually see some drivers (that they are correct and match)
$500 to $1,000 local sale is your spread, $1,000 if near pristine, More than that? You found the right buyer and it's icing on the cake
More if you're willing to pack and ship (maybe)
Posting about them endlessly is not going to elicit that response you need for the potential ePay buyer to read subsequent to the mandatory "Google" search; please provide the link to your sale if you have them up currently and maybe I, or others, can advise
Did you resolve the presentation problem(s)?
Well, one metric is completed Ebay sales.
A recent one timed-out with no bids at $1999.
And then several days later, same result, different price: $1899
Oh wait, that may have been your listing!
Well, at least you know what they're not worth.
If you really want to find out their value, run a no-reserve auction.
Local pickup in Vermont as the only shipping option will skew the data a bit!
It's also kind of confusing when you display a photo of three-pairs of L220s and talk about how they bring $4000 on Ebay . . .
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
▶Lets get serious folks and make a serious offer◀ ☛ I believe these are a fine example of the JBL L220's of that era.
I had a pair of 222's a few years back that I offered here for about $1100 with no takers. They were close to mint, with new refoams on the woofers and passives. Sold them on ebay 2 weeks later for $2150.
http://www.audioheritage.org/vbullet...ighlight=36922
He's not offering these in this thread. He's asking for information. If this was an offer to sell it would be in the JBL Marketplace. If you look at his completed auction listings on Ebay you'll see three attempts at selling this pair over the last 60-days, including one that's listed as "sold" back in February for $1009 after receiving three bids, with one retracted for $1034. The marketplace has spoken as to their value. The seller just didn't like the answer. Wonder why that sale didn't go through??▶Lets get serious folks and make a serious offer◀ ☛ I believe these are a fine example of the JBL L220's of that era.
Now I'm smart enough to know he's fishing for an offer here and I've seen his Ebay auction on-and-off for many months. They are a decent-enough pair of L220s and the seller is being honest about their flaws and providing photos. We all know the real value in those is in the 076s if one were to part them out. I appreciate him not parting them so someone can experience them as a system. If I was closer I'd probably buy them just so I could put them in the same room with the L150A, L7, 250ti and others I have just to refresh my memory of them from years ago with a better frame of reference.
I wish Dino all the best with his sale and if he wants to offer them here, he can probably find the correct venue for that!
". . . as you have no doubt noticed, no one told the 4345 that it can't work correctly so it does anyway."—Greg Timbers
Dear Friends,
Thank you for your time and considerations.
I have not been "fishing" for offers on this site. Yes, I'd prefer to keep the speakers as is and sell them that way.
On eBay I have noticed L220's being sold for as much as $4,500.00 a pair and it's not uncommon to see them sell for right around $2,000.00
As you must be aware there is a certain collective clientele and atmosphere on eBay.
Yes, I was wish washy about the listing on eBay...I've been on a learning curve with this whole scenario with them and others.
I listed the JBL L220's at various times at various prices in *all the various formats they offer. *Buy It Now, *Auction, *Reserve. The reserve was never meant which they charge a fee to list items using that feature every so many days. The auction IMHO was an insult to the L220's and JBL in regard to a $1,000.00 plus offer. Of coarse eBay and PayPal is right there with their hands out looking for their cut..and just in case your interested eBay also charges 10% of the shipping costs in addition to the cost of the items.
I chose to close the auction after notifying the potential buyer numerous times that I would not part with the L220's for the $1,000.00 plus offers., and that I'd rather donate them to a charity of my choice than sell them for that price.
My impression after being on eBay for awhile in general is that people are looking for a bargain. In my book there are no bargains when it comes to JBL, Tandberg, Denon, Harman/Kardon, etc...the list is long.
I personally do not feel overall that the L220's ever really found [had been recognized] their place in the market of JBL and other speakers of similar price and specifications.
JBL speakers like the Paragon's which I've seen being sold for over $30,000.00 and other models of coarse. Rightly so, the Paragon's are very special and appear to be bought and sold primarily by purest and collectors. In a different class shall we say than speakers like the L220's and other JBL models.
I'm not going to venture into what's worth the most in a pair of L220's as in the 076 tweeters selling for as much as $1,200.00 a pair, that are used in Westlake'sREFERENCE SERIES LOUDSPEAKER SYSTEMS SM-1. The LE14H woofer is no slouch as far as low end goes and certainly is favored over the LE14A's., etc...this is mostly out of my league and field of interest at this stage in life.
Recone kits for the LE14H's according to JBL Professional are no longer available..only for the LE14A's. To recone a LE14H/A would likely cost $500.00 per speaker assuming it was done at an authorized JBL dealer. The closest one to me is about three hours away in Stoneham, Massachusetts.
Assuming I hear back from Harman on any of the production numbers for the L220's or any other related information. I'll be sure to post it here.
I hope this has done some good.
Kind regards,
Raffaele
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