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    4365's in the US? Yup.

    HI All!

    I have wanted a pair of these since they were announced in what 2010? I complained long and loud about not being able to buy them here. I don't think anyone really cared what I had to say about it but when they were announced for sale here, well it was time to put some money where my mouth was/is.

    Thank you Mr Widget!
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    Cool set up.... They look rather compact in that context. I forgot you had those 1500 Arrays. I doubt you'll need them for music unless you are planning on recreating your favorite club beats!

    Have you had a chance to play them yet? I would imagine being up against the wall there will be significant bass reinforcement. Do tell...


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    I see lights on the amps

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    Congratulations! Nice space for them it seems. What are the amps/gear you are using to run these. This may seem like a silly question but are they bi-amp?
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    Those Techron M600's are porn

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    HI All!

    These things are really damn good! I know everyone expects the new owner of anything to gush but these kick ass. Even though they really are poser monitors, I knew that with the driver load that I could love them. I took the gamble un-auditioned, and won.

    They have bass aplenty. The subs are currently off. This room is not very conducive to a decent audio setup and since the 4365 is wider than the 1400 Arrays it is now all crammed together.

    It is now time to build the dedicated audio room. It is designed and I have been sitting on the dough to do it so I need to get the permit and just go. The JBL family is only getting larger.

    The front end is nothing to brag about and I really think for the first time that is now apparent. The Arrays are pretty forgiving, the 4365's let me hear much farther in.

    Wow someone recognized the M600's! I really do like them. When they are truly configured for audio with infinitely variable fans and .775V input sensitivity they rock and they are dead quiet. DC to channel three.

    I only got a couple of hours with them last night and about an hour of that was with one each and then switching back and forth and the short version of the long story is the Arrays have been bested in all but one category. They will likely end up in a bedroom.

    It's going to be a great weekend!

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    Congrats Barry!
    Can't wait to read your future comparison with the M2

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    the Arrays have been bested in all but one category.
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    Congrats on you new setup, we all look forward to hearing more on your listing impressions.

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    Congratulations


    nice set up

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    HI All;

    Like Widet said, I too like the Arrays and for the living room that I share with the rest of the family they fit the bill very well. I am a large format guy and sometimes when I want to open it up they just don't get there.

    Hi dingding, thank you.

    4313b, I get the M2 is a system and I would likely start with the Crown amp system. They are the only other large format studio monitor that I am interested in that I don't already have, but I would have to love it first.

    The prospect of a low FS 2216 and a super 12 is exciting!

    As said above the large format drivers are what gets it done for me and the 476's really knock it out of the park!

    Hi Ron, I get what you are saying, my 4350s are quad amped, five actually and I wouldn't have it any other way!

    Hey Shane! Nothing to argue with there but, I just don't share all the love for the LE14's that many do. I don't dislike them but I love the flavor (caution! imprecise audio descriptor!) of high efficiency drivers. I really thought about re-woofing the Arrray's but then even if you could fit a different woofer without butchering the cab, you would soon hit the limits of the 435 and at what point do you just jump for the 4365, M2 or a pair of DD's?

    Hey Dave, you will, you will.

    Thanks all and, all the best,
    Barry.
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    Nice...

    I love these threads. It's great to read about all the excellent new JBL systems out there. Those of us farther down the price curve can hear what the new owners are experiencing, and plan our ebay/CL searches for 2025 :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1audiohack View Post

    Hey Dave, you will, you will.
    Cool, sounds good. Thanks! Until then, bring the roof down with those babies!
    S4700 owner.

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    Finally, some 4365:s in the US!
    Congratulations!
    I was not fully satisfied with my 4365:s until I went active bi-amp with an dbx 260. It was an huge improvement in my system. Passively they needed to play on very high volume to sound good.
    My theory is that the crossover is somewhat downgraded to not make them mess with the big K2s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbleboy76 View Post
    My theory is that the crossover is somewhat downgraded to not make them mess with the big K2s.
    I have posted the passive network schematics, voltage drives and transducer complements for the 4365, K2-S9900, DD65000, DD66000 and DD67000.
    The difference in sound between them all is indeed a personal preference.
    I only post this for those who like to experiment around with various passive networks.
    They are all very interesting, how they relate to their respective transducers/horns/enclosures.
    But perhaps not quite as interesting as a Crown I-Tech 5000HD. That is a significant amount of money by comparison though, and a potentially significant amount of work to dial in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbleboy76 View Post
    I was not fully satisfied with my 4365:s until I went active bi-amp with an dbx 260. It was an huge improvement in my system. Passively they needed to play on very high volume to sound good.
    My theory is that the crossover is somewhat downgraded to not make them mess with the big K2s.
    I doubt that they would purposefully de-tune a speaker to keep it in line with it's pricing. That said the K2s do have a much more sophisticated and more costly network.

    I listened to the 4365s stock for several days and was quite impressed with them. I do have a very nice front end with a pair of Halo JC-1 mono blocks driving the speakers which may have helped.

    Could you please describe the improvements you sought and achieved by going active?


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