I was at a Deseret Industries (like a thrift store) Thursday in Burley, ID. They had some of these sitting there. They needed work but I know they are worth something for someone who can fix them up. I had no room in the vehicle (it broke my heart to leave them there) as I am from Phoenix and was visiting some relatives on the way home from picking up the daughter from school. Not sure if they were asking 20 each or 20 for the pair. None the less, I do not know anything else about them. If they are still there, this would be a great find for someone. Good luck!