That is your opinion . I don't own any audio company nor do I have stock in any of these companies but what I do know Emotiva is a better sounding power amp than a lot of amps on the market. I CAN care less how much an amp cost it's all about the sound so keep spending your money on over price power amps. I love my Emotiva and I sir had my fair share of power ampsOriginally Posted by Dave_72
Of course it's my opinion. That's why we're here, to debate. Anyway, I wouldn't say a lot of amps, really. What Emotiva really is, is a decent high powered Class A/B solid state amp. Is it enough for most people ie non audiophiles, absolutely. Is it good bang for the buck, definitely. But for those who want the ultimate in sound and musical capabilities ie the sound of real instruments in the room, and the emotions that music brings to the table, it's gonna fall way short. As for overpriced, well sure, that is a problem in the high end is high price....however, however, you get what you pay for in most cases.
S4700 owner.
NOT to inflame things , but to clarify, (I have no dog in this fight ...)
think about what "I CAN care less" means , phrase is properly used "I CAN't care less"
unless you meant what you wrote
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The fact is there are quite a few knowledgeable folk who would disagree with you.
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There is no debate.
If someone likes his new kit there is no harm in expressing that.
Unless you can prove you have the same listening skills, are present in the same room at the time of the evaluation I don't think its worthy of conversation.
There have been rule breaker brands in the past Carver and Hafler to name just two.
If anything I think satisfaction needs to stand the test of time.
The price $899 - tempting and from the feedback as well... in fact too tempting.
My XPA arrives tomorrow or Tuesday. My old Phase Linear sounds OK - but unreliable - especially when powering my precious 1400's. Will be interesting to see if 30 years of electronic development makes an audible difference. Keep you posted to what it sounds like.
Thanks to the one who started this thread.
Fair enough, and in turn there's gonna be quite a few that agree with me. If Emotiva is as good as claimed, why is there so much of it on the used market, and why doesn't everyone and their mother own it?
S4700 owner.
Straw man argument, huh ... thats E A S Y !Fair enough ... If Emotiva is as good as claimed, why is there so much of it on the used market,
and why doesn't everyone and their mother own it?
Why doesn't everyone own Crown, or Integra, Marantz, or McIntosh?
because we all hear things differently, have different audio tastes, and have different budgetary constraints.
Plus, some folks are more interested in their audio posture when it comes to what gear they buy ...
as to why its on the used market, some folks live with upgrade-itis ...
always have to have the latest, greatest thing, or constaintly trading gear to try something else,
something different ...
Heck, I'm guilty of that one - buying different speakers (KEF) when I have perfectly good JBLs to enjoy!
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True...Emotiva's pretty good stuff actually, it just can't compare to McIntosh, Luxman, Accuphase, and Pass Labs just to name a few. IMO, of course.
I don't believe it was intended to, or designed to.
Now if we're talking Rotel and NAD, then Emotiva probably is just as good or better , imo.
Basically, Emotiva is good mid fi, or upper mid fi. It's just not high end, imo.
S4700 owner.
Sure - just like I said, we all have different budgetary concerns ...True...Emotiva's pretty good stuff actually, it just can't compare to McIntosh, Luxman, Accuphase, and Pass Labs just to name a few. IMO, of course.
I don't believe it was intended to, or designed to.
Now if we're talking Rotel and NAD, then Emotiva probably is just as good or better , imo.
Basically, Emotiva is good mid fi, or upper mid fi. It's just not high end, imo.
for some folks, that last half-percent or so of fidelity/quality just isn't worth the 10x increase in price ...
YMMV, of course ...
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7: TIVO, Oppo BDP103D, B&K, 2pr UREI 809A, TF600, JBL B460
What are you basing your comments on? Have you carefully auditioned each of these amps you are talking about or distilling on line chatter?
I haven't personally heard any Emotiva gear... it may not be as good as the best, but it might be. It is certainly possible that they have a model or two that out shines some individual components from the list of "High End" manufacturers that you seem convinced are superior.
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Yes, I have auditioned them. Like I said, good bang for the buck. I don't believe it's possible, since Emotiva is built to a price point like most low end and mid fi stuff. They might, but I highly doubt it. The quality of parts and the overall design is not to the level of the High End manufacturers I listed. They can come close, but no cigar, imo.
S4700 owner.
Well, it's more than a last half percent, imo. You can't knock the artistry, engineering, and quality of the better high end amps. They are works of art that enrich your life to the utmost degree. But I see what you're getting at there. Again, for most people, Emotiva fulfills their needs.
S4700 owner.
'Course I don't any of their gear ...
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